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  • laborchic
    07-24 02:05 PM
    Having seen numerous threads in which the exchanges became rude/sarcastic/rude or even outright abusive and vulgar, I was hoping that this would not become one.

    Ron, while you may have a point in what you say, sarcasm and taunts will get you no where. As you said, the 'antis' are gearing up, suggesting (I presume) that the effort of all of us should be more concerted and determined. But you are not doing yourself any favor by saying the things that you do.
    Raji had a point of view, and has not been rude or offensive in expressing it. In fact, her/his first post was out why it is not good to use the AILA template. Well, PASKAL did try to address. Raji's tone or tenor of posts did not merit a peremptory reply, much less a rude one.

    Be that as it may, I do believe fervently that even if someone insists/demands an answer, you can always ignore it instead of being rude or aggressive.

    That way there will be more people on IV'S side.

    Brightsider,

    Can you please update your profile?





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  • coopheal
    01-09 03:23 PM
    All we Desi's want is a free ride, same old mentality, don't want to put in any diligence in this matter, but very quick on pointing short comings on others. Blame game!

    ....

    Make monthly monetary contribution for IV as a start.......





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  • old_hat
    05-12 05:03 PM
    This might come as a surprise to some of you, but someone needs to say it out loud. GET A LIFE FOLKS!!!! there is more to life then EB, GC and all. it seem all we desi's can think of is how to get a green card so we can live here with peace and never have to worry bout getting laid off or anything.

    Few points:

    1) having gc is a privilege not a right.

    2) US has every right to choose whom they want to have in their country.

    3) If getting PR or citizenship of a western country is the goal there are many countries which have a fair point based system.

    4) Considering the number of fraud's committed by Indian body shoppers and people who use them, i am not surprised USCIS is extra careful when it comes to Indian applications. Anyone who got his wife with no exp with software dev an h1b visa from some cheat in Jersey knows what i am talking bout . My freind got his wife an H1 after showing she knew software testing even though her major was fine arts and all she was good at was web surfing :)

    5) have a back up. i came here in 2001 as student and have seen it all. I am on h1b since 2004. i knew we have too many people whose sole aim in life is a American GC. to avoid becoming one of those who check processing dates first thing in morning, i applied for Canadian PR, got it in 8 months and i am not even gonna bother applying for labor, i-140 and all those precious life controlling documents.

    Wake up friends, you have options. Don't let your life depend on you application status.

    Nitin

    People of every country have the right to get whoever they want. The only question is are those rules clear and also are the decisions being made for the correct reasons. If they announce that they do not want to give GCs to anyone people will make up their minds if they want to go now or whenever there visa expires based on their personal situation.





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  • indio0617
    04-07 01:35 PM
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  • kbsyed61
    03-30 01:53 PM
    There was another LUD for all three of us (Self, Wife and daughter). Also received a CRIS email for wife with an RFE. I hope this RFE is about her incomplete vaccination at the time of filing. Will post the RFE details when I receive them from attorney.

    I have not done anything like applying for EAD, AP etc.





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  • eagerr2i
    07-19 11:49 AM
    As Pappu mentioned, the $ 64,000 figure is not a typo. That indeed is the money that was spent by him individually. Logiclife and others made trips to DC,air travel, hotel etc.. does add up real fast. All the expenses on these travels have been borne by the individuals and have not been reimbursed. More than 99 % of the IV funds has been used for advocacy efforts and getting council.

    The kind of commitment shown by Aman and logiclife is unparallel and they deserve our salutes and wishes. Also, do not forget to contribute to Immigration Voice. What we have achieved is interim relief, there has more work to be done in the future.



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  • desijackass
    01-29 10:49 AM
    It took 7 working days last december for my passport to come back.





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  • Macaca
    11-20 12:08 PM
    They keep repeating discredited theories and lies ad-nauseum until the opposition tires out and gives in
    Border security is a good example of this!

    Based on articles in News Article Thread, border security will not be effective. Some quotes from Don't fence them in (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showpost.php?p=187144&postcount=1324) By Rub�n Mart�nez | LA Times, October 17, 2007

    The Great Wall of America underscores a delusional faith in technology as the only solution to a problem that has nothing to do with technology. Ultimately, such Ozymandian monuments say more about the minds that conceived them than any "enemies" they actually contain. Think of the grandiose barriers of history -- the walls of Troy and China and Berlin; the wall that kept the Jews in the Warsaw Ghetto. Think of their fate, their ultimate symbolism. Each began with the idea that people -- and their ideas -- could be restrained by barriers, just like rivers can be dammed. A simple feat of engineering.

    And yet we believe that our wall will be the exception.

    Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff has done his best to dress up the beast.
    It will not work, because not even the greatest engineers can make a mad idea sane.

    The following (from The Border Boondoggle (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showpost.php?p=158814&postcount=1026) By Andrew Cockburn | Washington Post, September 2, 2007) is about cost effectiveness of border security.

    These are that system's immutable laws:

    The "threat," as portrayed to the public, always increases in direct proportion to the amount of money lavished on confronting it, and
    every extra dollar appropriated for this purpose brings a progressively less effective counter to the threat, thus requiring that even more money be spent. Meanwhile, reality -- the scope and shape of whatever threat is being pressed into service -- is usually at sharp variance with the official picture, which leads to:
    The "other side" can usually be maneuvered to react in a way that justifies further efforts on our part.

    Given such deficiencies, it seems safe to assume that, $30 billion and more from now, migrants will still be sneaking in to mow our lawns and clean our discount stores, and that this ongoing threat will ensure ever-expanding rounds of spending. That's what "militarization of the border" is all about.

    Lou DoGGs has been ranting on Border Security for 1+ year. He has convinced people; I also believed him before reading these articles. These people are forcing lawmakers (who know very well that Border Securty will not work). That is why Kennedy had a large unskilled worker visa quota: less motivation for coming in illegally.

    In CIR, border security and amnesty were together. Now border security is before amnesty with the hope that there will be NO amnsety.

    This is the influence of Lou DoGGs!



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  • go_guy123
    08-20 04:39 PM
    Excellent point. It is called the Selective Service System (Selective Service System: Welcome (http://www.sss.gov)), used when the President orders a military draft (like the ones during WW2 and Vietnam war)

    You have to register (males only) if you become a Permanent Resident in the ages 18-26; otherwise you could have problems during naturalization (N-400 has a specific question for Selective Service) and securing Federal Student Aid.

    Given the backlog and mess...i wonder how many will be 26 and below. Mainly applies to family based immigration.





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  • mhathi
    11-06 03:54 PM
    In reality, many companies who have subsidiaries abroad can use L1 visa program. But H1B offers flexibility that is much desired by many companies. (It is very less abused compared to H1B). No numerical cap on L1B may not go well with many of us. But I am very +ve that the visas are not issued in anticipatory mode like H1B. And why do companies spend 5K if they do not want to get the worker here? Do they like waste money just like that?

    Logically this highlights the real problem in the system - numerical caps. If the caps are not there and companies can get a visa-on demand, they will not spend 5K per visa on anticipatory mode. Because there is no need to do that.

    So no system is perfect. We have to minimize abuse and act responsibly when it comes to sensitive issues like immigration...

    I see only one problem in this logic! Many cases I know of, at least from the 2007 H1B fiasco, paid for the H1Bs through consulting companies FROM THEIR POCKETS. So to answer your question as to why companies would spend $5000 in anticipation, is that they don't. They take it from the applicant. (again I am not saying all do, but there are abusive companies that do).

    No cap on visa numbers will never fly... No political environment will be conducive to bringing in unlimited foreign workers without any restrictions. L1 has no caps because it is very difficult to qualify for an L1 visa, as far as I know. If caps in H1 are removed, you can bet there will be severe restrictions imposed on other aspects of the program.



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  • americandesi
    11-02 05:13 PM
    You make these H1-Bs who have spent 6 years here (working on various products, technologies, ramping up, understanding customers, relationships etc) go back, they are going to start companies in India. Now all the capital stays out there. The same 5 products that could have been built in the US and sold to lots of companies abroad, will now have to be bought by the US.

    The irony is that, FBI had already warned the American Firms on this

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Watch_those_H1-B_hires_FBI_tells_American_firms/rssarticleshow/2207928.cms





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  • willgetgc2005
    11-13 03:58 PM
    CIR will be as controversial as ever. SKIL, if any is our best bet.

    CIR seems to be a perpetual wait. Both parties will not close it.
    They need big issues to bicker and promise the electorate
    for the next election.

    IRAQ and CIR will be those big tickets they will use as levers.


    Sorry to sound negative, but it is just the way I see it.SKIL is our only option, IF AT ALL. CIR is just an illusion and who knows if our provisions will be in CIR even if it becomes a reality ??!!!


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  • Kushal
    06-02 10:10 PM
    Good going folks!!....this is the first time the polls look positive...
    WE WILL WIN, WE ARE WINNER and WE ARE BORN TO WIN...Amen!





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  • arunkotte
    08-14 10:31 AM
    Please read page 2 of Yates memo (Refer link). The Initial evidence "Annual report", "Tax return", and "Audited financial statement" map to "Employment of the beneficiary", "Net income" and "Net current assets" respectively.

    http://www.visaportal.com/downloads/...20to%20pay.pdf



    My 140 is approved today. Tax returns can be used to show the net current assets satisfy the ability to pay criteria. May sure you back it up with some good explaination.



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  • calboy78
    08-14 02:31 AM
    Yes, that is right, I said “plight of EB2-India”.

    I am a passive observer of these forums. But some of the ridiculous notions floating around here have motivated me to vent. First and foremost, the law as written is highly favorable to people in EB3 categories, even from India. Here is how...

    Take my example (and there are thousands like myself)....came to the US 8 years ago, spent 5 years working day and night to earn a PhD on a low (barely sustainable) stipend, got FIRST job saw decent money for the first time 6 years after I came.

    Now, compare this to a person working an EB3-job for the last 8 years. Not only does this person do a real job that hopefully provides a respectable income but this person also has the option of moving to EB2 after 5 years of experience. So, at the end of the day in 2008; this person comes out ahead of me in terms of money, in terms of priority date (if ported) and most likely in terms of GC.

    There are complaints all over the forum which have the stink of pretentiousness such as “oh..i am a poor EB3 waiting for n number of years” etc etc. What you guys seem to forget is that YOU are NOT an EB3, it is your JOB that is EB3. You have all the opportunities that were/are available to a person who sweated it out in the university system here to gain more qualifications and get an EB2 job. You CHOSE not to. The general discussion seems to center around cribbing about the US immigration system (Immigration by the way is a privilege defined by laws, not a birthright) and then blaming the EB2 crowd when they finally see the system implement the law as intended in the first place (horizontal spillover rules).

    All these posts that refer to “my career is over because my gc is delayed” are nothing but a pathetic excuse. Law of supply and demand....if you have a skillset that is valuable, you will be fine with or without GC anywhere in the world. It takes a bunch of documents to remain here legally, all you need is a passport to go back if the system here seems so bad.

    For all the attacks that are bound to happen, here is the fodder.....this is probably my first and last post, I haven’t contributed a dime to IV, will work here as long as I like it and if not, India is a great country and provides enough opportunities for any skillset !!

    Now, compare this to a person working an EB3-job for the last 8 years. Not only does this person do a real job that hopefully provides a respectable income but this person also has the option of moving to EB2 after 5 years of experience. So, at the end of the day in 2008; this person comes out ahead of me in terms of money, in terms of priority date (if ported) and most likely in terms of GC.


    IMHO -
    Your arguments don't hold water because:
    => With a PhD - one can get GC very soon because EB1 is mostly current...so don't say that EB3 are cutting in line.

    => Yes, in his first month PhD can't save as much as the one who had been working full time but in long term a PhD does and will.
    This person has an option of moving to EB2 BUT it is not easy as it sounds ..if person stays with same company, they will be reluctant to file his GC from scratch in EB2...going to another company has its own risk.

    => Then - why the hell EB3 guy did not choose to do his PhD ? - Well, people do things depending upon circumstances ..they might have family with 2 kids...they can't do PhD with that bare minimum stipend; They might be going along the waves. May be the person is smart and doing work of a PhD already (don't tell me that EB3 people can't do a PhD job ...I have seen people with Bachelor's degree outsmarting PhDs).

    Just because EB3 people did not do PhD - one can't justify their suffering ..they are suffering and its not justified.

    => There might be very very VERY few people who said “my career is over because my gc is delayed” !
    Because of delayed GC, people can't make important decision of their life - like where to stay? In US, In India? where to buy house etc?

    And lastly - I am an EB2; AND in near future planning to move back to India - losing the GC - so I am not speaking in favor of EB3 people because I am EB3 or I am just dying to be in US .. however I am speaking in favor of "what is right". It is not right to screw people by putting them in such a big limbo ...get their GC in 7 to 10 years.

    Try to put yourself in these shoes - After taking all the required courses and passing your thesis ...if somone grills you for another 7 years before giving you the status of "PhD" ..how would it fill like ? Like a "bicentenary man" (Watch the movie, if you haven't)!!

    btw...
    You said:
    What else could be expected?
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem
    Attack the argument, not the argumentor.

    And in your own words
    (Hingish...you are an idiot and it is quite obvious from what you had to say, which was absolutely pointless)

    You aren't following your own rules - confused ?

    - Nothing personal - What's right is right !





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  • tsnaresh
    04-19 08:17 AM
    I am happy about OP's Green card. I want to get some answers for some questions, been in this country for 16 years, wan't to get my Green card man(june 2003)

    NNreddy,

    I know what you are going through...man...I am also in the same boat. I have been on H1 since 1997. It is really encouraging to see the EB3 folks getting the Green Cards.



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  • venkat_gc
    02-15 03:57 PM
    Logiclife. I know why you are responding to these comments you all are frustrated with such comments. I know it is hard to not respond but please ignore these asinine comments. Please have some of these comments linked to the main page. But believe me "barking dogs seldom bite." Such people will ultimately sap your energy. But, just like how IV is asking people to contribute please also ask them to use their own judgment, they do this at their own risk. There are many people like us who have faith in your group although we know you cannot do miracles. Please have faith and I sincerely request to all members & moderator that once we see these comments let us move this to the some thread called �IV bashing thread� and let the rest of us completely ignore them.


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  • FraudGultee
    04-17 05:18 PM
    though hesitant, but, i agree to that

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  • little_willy
    03-03 02:32 PM
    Thanks ilikekilo, I'll check out IMG. Even with the rider for pre-existing condition, the coverage is limited to $15000 max, so I decided it isn't worth paying the extra premium for such little coverage.





    VMH_GC
    07-19 10:19 AM
    Message from Pappu:

    Yes this is not a typo. This is true. Aman has made more financial sacrifices and time sacrifices than anyone else. Not a single penny has been reimbursed to him for his trips to DC, food and stay in DC or car rental in DC. He even risked his job and went to DC on unpaid leave at critical times because lobbying was important for getting our work done. We in the core team know this and when we see the kind of contributions we get from members, we feel disappointed that our efforts are not valued. When we started the $20 contributions people felt $20 was too high and wanted $10 per month or less. The kind of work and effort that is needed to push a single provision is phenomenal and needs lot of capital. The more the better. Sometimes reading posts that say IV core is selfish also disappoints us. People do not know the effort that goes in getting anything done. This website is simply a tool for us to communicate to everyone. The big effort is the lobbying work. We hope the Buisnessweek article helps people realize our hard work and people value it by contributing to it and helping us in all action items.


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    ab_tak_chappan
    08-20 01:15 AM
    Another frustrated EB2 2004 filer :D:D:D:D:D:D
    Yoo who the F*** is this? Gave me red dot which i really don�t care about...but said this 'It is not "Barath" u moron, it is "Bharat".. learn to spell corrrectly u idiot' ...look at you D*** head how you have spelled "correctelly" (correctly) in your comments you go learn how to spell first or better understand that its always possible of TYPO.:mad::mad::mad: