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  • wandmaker
    12-03 06:07 PM
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  • logiclife
    06-17 02:20 PM
    Be Unreasonable & a cause of progress, not just a beneficiary.

    Hello everyone,

    I will explain the title of this thread in a minute (the unreasonable part) but before that I would like to share my experience in DC last week during, before and after lobby days.

    A few weeks ago, when Aman called me to join him in lobby days, just like many others, I was having a difficult time scheduling vacation days off from work. I somehow convinced my boss to let me take those days off and finish the work in the weekend prior to June.

    The Airport pickup:

    When I reached the Airport, Aman and Pratik were there to pick me up. And this is where it got funny and really hilarious. The car was a compact rental car and it was full of printers, laptops and folders -- all in preparation of lobby day. There was barely enough place to sit in the car. After shutting all the doors tight (we really had to compress the luggage and force the door shut) we started driving towards the hotel. And the dome light would not shut off. So everyone outside can see a car full of luggage, printers and people packed like a can of sardines. Fortunately Aman knew the way to the Hotel and we could go there without having to stop for directions.

    Preparation and training on Sunday:

    Sunday was hectic, busy, tiring and very very interesting. I met a lot of new people on Sunday who had come to DC for the first time. And it felt really really good to reconnect with people who we had met earlier in 2007 rally in DC and the earlier rally in San Jose in July. Just felt like I had met my friends from college with whom I spend 4 years. The kind of relationship and chemistry that we have is impossible to describe in words. Crisis and calamity have a way of creating bonds that last a lifetime. We all may get green-cards in next 1 year or maybe 10 years. But I will remember the people I met in DC twice and in San Jose for the rest of my life. And I am sure others feel the same way. These are the people who were sitting on the laptop scheduling lawmaker meetings and connecting members to appointments till 4:00 AM on Monday morning and then back to work by 8:00 AM. We ate whatever was ordered or whatever we found in the hotel. There were people printing business cards in one corner. Others were printing the drop-off material for lawmakers, preparing neat folders for meetings. There was training and mock-meetings going on in another corner for people who had never been to the Capitol Hill before. There was so much purpose and so much goal-oriented motivation in the room, I felt really glad to have not missed this even one out of 3 times we done this both in DC and in San Jose.

    The next two days:

    Over the next two days, I went to about 7 meetings in the House and Senate side and had very very interesting experiences, mostly positive. I cannot share the details of the response for each office as this is a public forum, but I can tell you that having been to DC about 6 times now since 2006, there are Hill Staffers who know many of us and even remember our names. Our conversations do not begin with introductions, but where we left off in our last meeting. More than 60-70% of the offices of Congressmen and Senators know about Immigration Voice and know about the issue. Some offices may have newer staff and not know, and that's where education helps.

    Every single day consisted of going to the Hill from the situation room, (I mostly took a cab, I am lazy that way even if its only 4 blocks), coming back, getting some work done, going back to the Hill, accompanying someone if they are alone in the meetings (it helps to have 2 or more IV members go to a meeting). We worked till 11 PM mostly, and got about 4-5 hours of sleep each night. And that is true for everyone who was there. EVERY SINGLE one. Walking between the office buildings (and they are big) and walking a few times back to the Hotel also made some of us realize (like me) that how out of shape we are physically :):)

    And now to the UNreasonables:

    The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
    George Bernard Shaw
    Irish dramatist & socialist (1856 - 1950)


    Every single person who came to DC this time or the time before, or who came to San Jose rally has been told by friends, family and colleagues "Why are you going to DC, let others go, take care of yourself, all problems get fixed eventually, Congress will take care of it".

    They sound very reasonable or try to convince you that they are the reasonable ones and you are being unreasonable by going to the Capitol and working on your cause.

    The truth is...yes, we may be. But we are the ones who will eventually make a difference. If you read the quote from George Bernard Shaw, you will realize that the reasonable men and women will sit around and talk about us, save their time for family and leisure and comply themselves to the system. They will comply themselves to a system that keeps in hanging without a green card for 20 years. They will never be capable of ushering progress.

    The unreasonable ones, the ones like us, who contribute to this cause in various forms, are the gifted ones. We are the lucky ones. For we have the wisdom and the strength to do the unreasonable and get the world to comply to our point of view.


    And flower campaign, the DC rally -- that got bulletin reversed in 2007,
    the popularity of removing per-country ceilings in the offices that exist today and didnt exist before --


    All this a work of men and women like us who are unreasonably resilient, who will not listen to the advise of reasonable men who sit on the sidelines and refresh the Visa Bulletin page every first friday of every month 20 times a day.

    But to those who get it...I have one more quote for you, a final one, I promise:

    "If we did all the things we are capable of, we would literally astound ourselves."
    Thomas Alva Edison (1847-1931)

    I wish the problem of greencard backlogs get cleared soon, but if it doesnt, I will do this a 100 times again and with same or more passion, determination and purpose. Our energy and determination would outlast and outlive the intertia of Congress.





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  • gsc999
    11-16 08:46 PM
    You know what. I would like to donate something to IV this holiday season. I have a Wii gaming console that I bought earlier during the year but never actually got around to play it much :)

    I want to donate that to IV. There are a couple of ways you can get your hands on this amazing machine, PM me and I will mail it to your address, you send the retail value of a Wii, to IV as donation. Or we can set up an auction. Highest bidder gets it. Mind you this is just for donation purposes. I won't make any money out of this. You will get a gaming console and IV will get some donation.

    Lemme know.





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  • crystal
    07-08 01:25 PM
    Gnadhigiri on http://www.immigration-law.com/. It is interesting to note that Mathew did not quote Immigration Voice , but as East Indians . Many non-indians also sent floweres. I guess there is something to it



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  • ragz4u
    04-12 02:06 PM
    He protested against the Vietnam war. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._M._Coetzee





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  • sparky_jones
    08-14 01:44 PM
    Hi

    I have a profile made my LUD hasn't changed, I do not know where my I140 was approved from... HOW can I find that?

    Thanks!
    I guess if your receipt number starts with SRC, it was processed at TSC.



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  • paskal
    12-18 08:09 PM
    nope i use amex
    try setting up a pay pal account
    i found it easier to work things that way

    BTW you are all set to be 21!





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  • unitednations
    02-05 12:04 AM
    Having diversity AND country quota for skilled employment is affirmative action gone waco. EB skilled immigration is to allow businesses to hire foreign labor for jobs they can't find American Citizens. Now to restrict businesses to discriminate based on the country of birth is just riduculous. Next do Universities apply affirmative action to their international student recruitement?

    Indians and Chinese make up the largest group of international students in Engineering and Science. US citizens make up less than 50% of those graduating in Science and Engineering in Master's and PhD programs. Now businesses should not be penalized if they can't fill their highly skilled jobs with Iranians and Tongans and any other ROW countries.

    We have a diversity lottery for nationals of those countries who would not make it out on merit and need a leg up. There may be a few Indian consulting companies who favor Indians, but they are the people who pay wages and know best. Similarly just because Americans prefer to buy Japanese cars we can't create an "affirmative action" and prevent americans from buying Japanese cars. We can't prevent walmart from stocking chinese products. So why force employers not to hire Indians and Chinese through creating quotas for highly skilled jobs?

    No meaningful immigration reforms can be achieved as long as skilled immigration is based on country quotas. Next we know there will be quotas for marrying foreigners to add to diversity. If you marry a mexican there is retrogression but if you marry a citizen of Vanuatu then green card is processed in ROW:)

    I was just making my point how ridiculous it is to have quotas for skilled immigration but not for others including asylum cases.

    I'm not saying it is right. I think there should be no quotas; diversity or otherwise. It should follow normal business practices. Can't find american, we need you now you start working. This is how it works in everyday business.

    However; we need to understand why doesn't immigration follow normal business practices. is it that we place more value on our contributions then what the country does. Is EB just another route to get people here like family, asylum, refugees, etc?

    Although it may sound ridiculous but why is everyone want to put any limits to it. If proper controls can be put in place that there are genuine jobs and candidates are genuine then there shouldn't be any limits. How come no one wants to go for this solution. It actually makes more sense then just increasing the quota or not including dependents, etc.



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  • senthil1
    08-12 12:02 AM
    Eb2 will be better most of the time because many will not be eligible or Job position does not need Masters or 5 years of experience. So it will move fast though it may go back on october. So if possible try to port into EB2 will always be a good idea. CIR or Visa capture bill may not be possible atleast for an year or more. EB1 and EB2 are best bet for next 1 to 2 years.

    Dream on about porting from Eb3 to EB2. On an average it is taking more 9 months to get labor clearence that too if it is eb3. if you are trying eb2 that is almost a definite audit. We have a case in our company which was stuck in audit (eb2) for more than an year now. our company and attorney are no longer filing eb2 (offcourse it is a different matter than they are no longer filing any green card application because of layoffs). So unless you are working for a desi "con"sultant company not many american companies (almosy none) are filing eb3 green card perm applications leave alone eb3 to eb2 conversions. Even desi companies are scared shit because USCIS is knocking the living daylights out of them. Even desi companies are scared of filing eb3 green card perm applications leave alone eb2. So good luck with your eb3 to eb2 dream.





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  • everonh1
    07-17 08:25 PM
    Great Guys!!!Thanks to IV!!

    The flower campaign and protest rally etc did raise a storm on this issue.
    This proves a point that we should stand up and protest against anything unjust,instead of being a passive spectator.

    Kudos to all who joined the flower campaign and San Jose rally.



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  • dtekkedil
    07-05 04:31 PM
    This is a great idea , but then DOS overturned the USCIS decision (hence the letter to Mike Chertoff and Condy of DOS from one the Congresswoman) . Shouldn't the flowers go to one of these guys ???

    All bulletins are published by DOS. Same is the case with the July bulletin. However in this case, it was information from USCIS that forced DOS to reconsider!

    Do you expect anyone to believe that when it takes one year to give 140, 000 visas... this time they managed to give 60, 000 visas in ONE month?? If something is fishy, it is at USCIS!





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  • ItIsNotFunny
    03-09 05:10 PM
    Its 17% Goal achieved. I wish I could see 25% today.

    Yes We Can.



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  • seahawks
    09-08 11:03 AM
    Guys/Gals...

    Sorry but do not want to be a damper... But this thread does not give me the right feeling. I have been a member of IV i think from dec 2005 and contributed quite a few hundered dollars and just like this organization as a simplistic, good non-profit orgnization with good intentions....

    But in this thread we see a taunt... which is more like we will not have numbers in DC and then some triades...

    So far whenever such type of hate comments are posted, I have noticed that the IV core/ Super moderators either close the threads or blacklist the user....

    But in this case we see periodically (i think a couple of times) that super moderators are only making comments that we need to prove numbers so join the rally....

    Sorry to say this but i feel either this stage managed ( the triades) or super moderators/ IV core are taking advantage of this thread.... Both I feel are inappropriate....

    If I am wrong in what i have stated - My apologies to Supermoderators / IV Core.... But If I am right then I think personally it is a sad day since it lowered the image of IV in front of a great admirer.

    IV does not stoop this level of staging and creating animosity. As always believe in IV and its efforts. Everyone is focussed in the rally and making it a success, there is so much behind the scenes stuff that needs to be done, IV core does not have the time to manage threads is all I would say at this time. Lets all be smart enough to ignore nay sayers. I am not a moderator, nor a core member, but I trust IV in their efforts and support and it will not change. Doubt creates confusion, let no doubt be in your mind!





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  • a1b2c3
    09-12 07:41 AM
    If we can even collectively demand official data, which I think we are entitled to, it will help IV community in estimating the wait times for individual cases. It may also help USCIS in correcting their projections and forseeing the demand.

    http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=21462

    Count me in for any effort in this direction.



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  • anurakt
    12-18 09:49 PM
    Guys,
    The collection so far shows 33.33% of the $60K target as of December 11th.
    Friends I pledge a $500 donation as soon as the figures reaches 500 less than halfway ... i.e $29,500 and another again once the figure reaches 500 less of $60,000 i.e $59,500. Pappu or any of the core member please let me know once we touch this figures BY 31ST DECEMBER. Till then keep the marathon going.

    LET'S SEE IF YOU GUYS CAN MAKE ME SHELL $1000 IN TOTAL.... :-))

    Core members if need be , put my pledge on the main page... would like see if this forum has ba**s to make me shell out the $1000 bucks.....

    MEMBERS ..YOU GOT TWO WEEKS TO SHOW SOME SPIRITS...CALL YOUR FRIENDS AND FAMILIES...LET'S SEE WHAT YOU CAN ACHEIVE .... I PERSONALLY BELEIVE THAT THIS WOULD BE A TESTIMONY OF OUR SPIRIT TO RESOLVE OUR ISSUE NEXT YEAR... IF YOU CAN MAKE THIS HAPPEN I AM 110% CERTAIN THAT WE WILL RESOLVE EVERYTHING NEXT YEAR....ELSE FORGET GREEN CARD .... PLEASE SIT AT HOME TILL YOUR HAIRS TURNED WHITE AND YOU NEED THOSE EXTRA SET OF TEETHS..... NO ONE CAN SAVE YOU....
    CAN U TAKE THE CHALLENGE ?????





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  • tictaclsc
    07-17 08:10 PM
    Thank you to all members here and core members. I have been watching this thread since June 30. I can't believe this is actually happening.

    I was the one who DID NOT send any flowers because I was simply scared.

    I was the one who DID NOT contribute any donation to IV.

    I was the one who wouldn't do rally, simply I did not think it's gonna work.

    Now, I am very happy. At the same time, I shame myself.

    Once again, I bow to all members who actually did something & contributed something to this community and entire legal immigrants. I will remember this day even when I get a citizenship in the future.

    Finally, I like to make a donation to this community. However, let me finish my I-485 filing NOW! lol gotta send this to my laywer tomorrow morning...

    you guys are awesome. good luck with your filing!



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  • bigboy007
    05-10 11:18 PM
    When did you come to US my friend ? did you ever were in the posts and discussions that went through all the years reg SUBS ? Atleast search on internet you will see whether is idea is BRAND new or old enough ?

    How can you think of USCIS going back to something that doesnt exist any more (Fraud is diff story) , Admin Fix is for something that is existing, and in hands of USCIS. per law ppl ported dates and it is valid at that time.. Per law ppl can still port dates from EB3 to EB2 or earlier dates in the same category. Admin Fix cant back date the LAW. Simple common sense. You can keep clogging ... Instead we can work on the same energy for Recap.

    Are you going to followup with USCIS that It shouldnt let ppl port from EB3 to EB2? L1,L2 Getting quickly ? I dont want to waste my time on EB3 Vs EB2 Vs EB1 Vs L1 Vs L2.. Lets aim at one thing that helps all and its a jackpot that is achievable for us...

    I am reviving this old thread because it was created by me, and it is highly relevant now. I predicted last month that EB2-I will become "U" soon, and it has happened (almost).

    The quick way out of this mess is to ask CIS to move subst labor folks back in the queue. That will ensure that both EB3-I and EB2-I will move forward to July 07. Most of the labor substitution took place in that month itself.

    This is an admin fix and does not require any new legislature. This is an idea whose time has come.





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  • antihero
    04-14 11:27 AM
    ..... Now where did all these old PD's pop from. Definitely sub has a big role to play. As I said in my earlier post, nothing can be done abt. this.
    ....


    You are right that PD of the substute labors are clogging the lines. But something can certainly be done. We can ask CIS to assign the date of filing of I-140 as the PD for substitute case. This is not same as revoking all substituted labors. This is simply rearranging the serial numbers in the queue. And this does not require any law from the lawmakers. So this should be low hanging fruit.





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  • pappu
    12-19 12:15 PM
    Thank you everyone for the contribution as of 1:10 PM EST we have reached 40.80% of our target (60K). I am sure if we continue this momentum we can easily reach our target. (until Dec 11, 04:30 PM (EST) 33.14% was met)





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    reedandbamboo
    09-13 11:36 PM
    1) Since the letter refers to "we" (the legal immigrants), should we be individually signing the letter?

    2) Are we going to provide our mailing address as well as email IN THE EVENT that there will be a response to our questions?

    3) What happens if there is no response?

    4) In the letter, I said action must be taken in the remaining 15 days .. BUT HOW CAN ANYTHING BE DONE AS THE STANDARD RESPONSE IS "the annual quota is exhausted" ??? i.e., there are no more visas to allocate!!