willigetgc?
06-18 09:25 AM
Be Unreasonable & a cause of progress, not just a beneficiary.
And now to the UNreasonables:
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
George Bernard Shaw
Irish dramatist & socialist (1856 - 1950)
Every single person who came to DC this time or the time before, or who came to San Jose rally has been told by friends, family and colleagues "Why are you going to DC, let others go, take care of yourself, all problems get fixed eventually, Congress will take care of it".
They sound very reasonable or try to convince you that they are the reasonable ones and you are being unreasonable by going to the Capitol and working on your cause.
The truth is...yes, we may be. But we are the ones who will eventually make a difference. If you read the quote from George Bernard Shaw, you will realize that the reasonable men and women will sit around and talk about us, save their time for family and leisure and comply themselves to the system. They will comply themselves to a system that keeps in hanging without a green card for 20 years. They will never be capable of ushering progress.
The unreasonable ones, the ones like us, who contribute to this cause in various forms, are the gifted ones. We are the lucky ones. For we have the wisdom and the strength to do the unreasonable and get the world to comply to our point of view.
And flower campaign, the DC rally -- that got bulletin reversed in 2007,
the popularity of removing per-country ceilings in the offices that exist today and didnt exist before --
All this a work of men and women like us who are unreasonably resilient, who will not listen to the advise of reasonable men who sit on the sidelines and refresh the Visa Bulletin page every first friday of every month 20 times a day.
But to those who get it...I have one more quote for you, a final one, I promise:
"If we did all the things we are capable of, we would literally astound ourselves."
Thomas Alva Edison (1847-1931)
I wish the problem of greencard backlogs get cleared soon, but if it doesnt, I will do this a 100 times again and with same or more passion, determination and purpose. Our energy and determination would outlast and outlive the intertia of Congress.
Not having participated in any previous efforts, the skepticism I had when I landed in DC vanished the moment you started the training session. You are right, if we are not goaded into action, we are content to refresh the visa bulletin every 1st Friday of the month - why 20? 50 times a day!!
Never once did I realize that by clicking on refresh button - I am actually doing nothing to change the outcome of what will be published. However, during the training, during our lawmaker meeting in DC - I realized I AM ACTUALLY WORKING TO CHANGE THAT VISA BULLETIN
I realized that my participation will not bare immediate fruits but just that I added a good dose of Miracle Grow and Water. The amount of sunshine is controlled by the powers beyond me, but IV and I are working to make sure that our plant does not get overshadowed by larger trees. Will I be ready to add more Miracle grow in the next 4/5 months? ABSOLUTELY.
Every IV member can take this as a challenge or as a request - watch the political environment and follow what is happening on the IV forums and action items. As things get warmer, talk to your bosses, spouses and be prepared to participate in Lobby or Rally efforts that will propel our issues to the forefront and get the solutions (be it in whole or partial). Be prepared to participate. Find reasons to participate in such efforts and not excuses/contention/indifference. If you can't do it, find others to take your spot. Do what it takes.
We may be high skilled in technology but we have a long way to go in terms of communication - and to find you LOGICLIFE, an excellent communicator - it is a privilege, be trained by him, and to actually be in a meeting with him - Priceless.
Lastly, I want to say, that I have become so "Unreasonable" and am trying to convince every friend of mine to be active in IV for our issues, that I have come to a point where I want every high skilled immigrant to perceive solutions to immigration the way I do!!!
And now to the UNreasonables:
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
George Bernard Shaw
Irish dramatist & socialist (1856 - 1950)
Every single person who came to DC this time or the time before, or who came to San Jose rally has been told by friends, family and colleagues "Why are you going to DC, let others go, take care of yourself, all problems get fixed eventually, Congress will take care of it".
They sound very reasonable or try to convince you that they are the reasonable ones and you are being unreasonable by going to the Capitol and working on your cause.
The truth is...yes, we may be. But we are the ones who will eventually make a difference. If you read the quote from George Bernard Shaw, you will realize that the reasonable men and women will sit around and talk about us, save their time for family and leisure and comply themselves to the system. They will comply themselves to a system that keeps in hanging without a green card for 20 years. They will never be capable of ushering progress.
The unreasonable ones, the ones like us, who contribute to this cause in various forms, are the gifted ones. We are the lucky ones. For we have the wisdom and the strength to do the unreasonable and get the world to comply to our point of view.
And flower campaign, the DC rally -- that got bulletin reversed in 2007,
the popularity of removing per-country ceilings in the offices that exist today and didnt exist before --
All this a work of men and women like us who are unreasonably resilient, who will not listen to the advise of reasonable men who sit on the sidelines and refresh the Visa Bulletin page every first friday of every month 20 times a day.
But to those who get it...I have one more quote for you, a final one, I promise:
"If we did all the things we are capable of, we would literally astound ourselves."
Thomas Alva Edison (1847-1931)
I wish the problem of greencard backlogs get cleared soon, but if it doesnt, I will do this a 100 times again and with same or more passion, determination and purpose. Our energy and determination would outlast and outlive the intertia of Congress.
Not having participated in any previous efforts, the skepticism I had when I landed in DC vanished the moment you started the training session. You are right, if we are not goaded into action, we are content to refresh the visa bulletin every 1st Friday of the month - why 20? 50 times a day!!
Never once did I realize that by clicking on refresh button - I am actually doing nothing to change the outcome of what will be published. However, during the training, during our lawmaker meeting in DC - I realized I AM ACTUALLY WORKING TO CHANGE THAT VISA BULLETIN
I realized that my participation will not bare immediate fruits but just that I added a good dose of Miracle Grow and Water. The amount of sunshine is controlled by the powers beyond me, but IV and I are working to make sure that our plant does not get overshadowed by larger trees. Will I be ready to add more Miracle grow in the next 4/5 months? ABSOLUTELY.
Every IV member can take this as a challenge or as a request - watch the political environment and follow what is happening on the IV forums and action items. As things get warmer, talk to your bosses, spouses and be prepared to participate in Lobby or Rally efforts that will propel our issues to the forefront and get the solutions (be it in whole or partial). Be prepared to participate. Find reasons to participate in such efforts and not excuses/contention/indifference. If you can't do it, find others to take your spot. Do what it takes.
We may be high skilled in technology but we have a long way to go in terms of communication - and to find you LOGICLIFE, an excellent communicator - it is a privilege, be trained by him, and to actually be in a meeting with him - Priceless.
Lastly, I want to say, that I have become so "Unreasonable" and am trying to convince every friend of mine to be active in IV for our issues, that I have come to a point where I want every high skilled immigrant to perceive solutions to immigration the way I do!!!
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greenleaf81
08-12 04:13 PM
I decided to move to india now. I have I140 cleared and having a permanent job. But enough is enough!
I started looking openings at india 2 weeks ago and most probably will get a offer from a US financial giant having IT shop at bangalore.
I think this is right decision at this time.
Any suggestions/feedback guys?
Everybody's case is different, when it comes to how they feel being a in a foreign country and hanging by a thread to get a stable status and stable life. You seem to have gotten a stable job which probably means you are better than most of the people who are working as contractors. But what matters is being on Visa, are you able to enjoy your life here? Will getting a GC help you have a better life or will you continue to lead the same life?
I think if you believe getting a GC will help you lead a better life you should stay here - since your i140 is cleared its another 4-5 yrs wait max. On the other hand if your job here is unstable and you think you will have a better life back home, then you should move. Bangalore is a great city as long as you have a comfortable job and good pay.
I started looking openings at india 2 weeks ago and most probably will get a offer from a US financial giant having IT shop at bangalore.
I think this is right decision at this time.
Any suggestions/feedback guys?
Everybody's case is different, when it comes to how they feel being a in a foreign country and hanging by a thread to get a stable status and stable life. You seem to have gotten a stable job which probably means you are better than most of the people who are working as contractors. But what matters is being on Visa, are you able to enjoy your life here? Will getting a GC help you have a better life or will you continue to lead the same life?
I think if you believe getting a GC will help you lead a better life you should stay here - since your i140 is cleared its another 4-5 yrs wait max. On the other hand if your job here is unstable and you think you will have a better life back home, then you should move. Bangalore is a great city as long as you have a comfortable job and good pay.
a1b2c3
09-12 07:41 AM
If we can even collectively demand official data, which I think we are entitled to, it will help IV community in estimating the wait times for individual cases. It may also help USCIS in correcting their projections and forseeing the demand.
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=21462
Count me in for any effort in this direction.
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=21462
Count me in for any effort in this direction.
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sugaur
12-10 04:28 PM
The Sheriff or his officers are not Wardens. A Warden(the head of a prison) can order it if the inmate has demonstrated a history of assaultive behavior or escaped before. Neither applies. And the restraints have to be the least restrictive, not have both legs and hands shackled.
Dude its apparent that you are a moron.
If you want to selectively read what suits your point of view, thats fine. And resorting to name calling is usually a sign that you have no better counter argument.
Dude its apparent that you are a moron.
If you want to selectively read what suits your point of view, thats fine. And resorting to name calling is usually a sign that you have no better counter argument.
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belmontboy
04-15 09:18 PM
Ok lets say that F1 is changed to a dual intent visa (Which i doubt will ever happen)
But lets say it happens then shouldn't they go to the end of the line
Is that not the same logic used by EB2 against EB3 Porters ?
What ever your logic the fact is currently F1 is NOT and immigrant intent visa and hence there is fraud currently. Now what happens in future is not deterministic but what is happening now is plain to see
You should complain about this to USCIS
But lets say it happens then shouldn't they go to the end of the line
Is that not the same logic used by EB2 against EB3 Porters ?
What ever your logic the fact is currently F1 is NOT and immigrant intent visa and hence there is fraud currently. Now what happens in future is not deterministic but what is happening now is plain to see
You should complain about this to USCIS
va_dude
08-11 10:29 AM
WTF..... i'm so damn ticked off now.
Eb3-I has been just hung out to dry.
Everything else keeps progressing. Bullshit obama govt isn't doing squat for the immig reform bill too.
I'm fine with Eb2-I progressing, but shouldn't there be something to move Eb3 too. Its crazy to think that folks in Eb3 with dates of 2002/03 are still waiting while Eb3 folks from 2005 are now current.
Eb3-I has been just hung out to dry.
Everything else keeps progressing. Bullshit obama govt isn't doing squat for the immig reform bill too.
I'm fine with Eb2-I progressing, but shouldn't there be something to move Eb3 too. Its crazy to think that folks in Eb3 with dates of 2002/03 are still waiting while Eb3 folks from 2005 are now current.
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rp0lol
03-09 07:55 PM
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optimystic
08-25 05:30 PM
What does it mean that EB2 numbers became unavailable as of Aug 21st? !!!!!
The Sept Visa bulletin (http://travel.state.gov/visa/frvi/bulletin/bulletin_4328.html) states that India EB2 cutoff date is 01 Aug 06 !!
If the visa numbers are indeed exhausted, then, the Sept Visa bulletin will be INCORRECT ! and the USCIS/DOS has to redact the Sept bulletin !!! Sounds like another fiasco brewing to me ! Call it EB2-I Fiasco ! You heard it first here. :)
Would be interesting to see how one can legally corner USCIS with proper evidence that they bungled up. They could always keep all cases in pending state , saying they are still processing/waiting for data, examining details etc, and not have to approve any EB2 cases in the month of Sept..... But would be very difficult to hide it from public and AILA etc...
They could then wait until Oct so new numbers get allotted, and then they can adjust EB2-I cutoff dates more carefully at that time.... gimme_GC2006 pray to god that , come oct bulletin, EB2-I does not retrogress beneath your PD ! All my best wishes to you.
Just noticed that EB2 cutoff for EB2-I in Aug bulletin was 01 Jun 06 !!!
And in Sept bulletin they advanced it by two more months to 01 Aug 06 !!!!...But now their systems show that Visa numbers are all exhausted even before we enter Sept !!! Holy Cow! :eek:
This would expose their blatant lottery mechanism that they employ to simply advance and then retrogress PDs without the simplest of clues as to how many cases they have pending and could be processed
This would also explain "cut off date not established" that the IO quoted as the reason.....
The visa numbers exhausted midway thru the month of the bulletin...so the system went into some init mode, waiting for next cutoff date to be established. But this time, come sept, the system would again see a valid cutoff date (actually a progressed date!!) , but NO VISA numbers !!
The Sept Visa bulletin (http://travel.state.gov/visa/frvi/bulletin/bulletin_4328.html) states that India EB2 cutoff date is 01 Aug 06 !!
If the visa numbers are indeed exhausted, then, the Sept Visa bulletin will be INCORRECT ! and the USCIS/DOS has to redact the Sept bulletin !!! Sounds like another fiasco brewing to me ! Call it EB2-I Fiasco ! You heard it first here. :)
Would be interesting to see how one can legally corner USCIS with proper evidence that they bungled up. They could always keep all cases in pending state , saying they are still processing/waiting for data, examining details etc, and not have to approve any EB2 cases in the month of Sept..... But would be very difficult to hide it from public and AILA etc...
They could then wait until Oct so new numbers get allotted, and then they can adjust EB2-I cutoff dates more carefully at that time.... gimme_GC2006 pray to god that , come oct bulletin, EB2-I does not retrogress beneath your PD ! All my best wishes to you.
Just noticed that EB2 cutoff for EB2-I in Aug bulletin was 01 Jun 06 !!!
And in Sept bulletin they advanced it by two more months to 01 Aug 06 !!!!...But now their systems show that Visa numbers are all exhausted even before we enter Sept !!! Holy Cow! :eek:
This would expose their blatant lottery mechanism that they employ to simply advance and then retrogress PDs without the simplest of clues as to how many cases they have pending and could be processed
This would also explain "cut off date not established" that the IO quoted as the reason.....
The visa numbers exhausted midway thru the month of the bulletin...so the system went into some init mode, waiting for next cutoff date to be established. But this time, come sept, the system would again see a valid cutoff date (actually a progressed date!!) , but NO VISA numbers !!
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ragz4u
04-19 03:29 PM
Sometimes we get approached by journalists who need a story the very next day. They are looking for specific subjects for the story though.
An example is say the Investors Business Daily (a financial daily). A reporter might come to us and ask us if we have anyone from the Finance sector who is suffering due to retrogression and is willing to speak up about it. They might also add that we need only Eb1/Eb2 category folks.
When this happens, we are in a mad scramble to find folks who fit this criteria so that we do not lose this chance.
Another example might be of a Medical Journal looking for doctors stuck due to retrogression.
We are constantly getting requests like this but cannot capitalize on it because we do not have enough stories already available to fit the criteria.
So please send in your stories. It need not be earth shattering at all (most of us are mere mortals). You never know when a reporter is specifically looking for a story similar to yours and you might just tilt the balance in favor of skilled immigrants.
An example is say the Investors Business Daily (a financial daily). A reporter might come to us and ask us if we have anyone from the Finance sector who is suffering due to retrogression and is willing to speak up about it. They might also add that we need only Eb1/Eb2 category folks.
When this happens, we are in a mad scramble to find folks who fit this criteria so that we do not lose this chance.
Another example might be of a Medical Journal looking for doctors stuck due to retrogression.
We are constantly getting requests like this but cannot capitalize on it because we do not have enough stories already available to fit the criteria.
So please send in your stories. It need not be earth shattering at all (most of us are mere mortals). You never know when a reporter is specifically looking for a story similar to yours and you might just tilt the balance in favor of skilled immigrants.
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Humhongekamyab
02-26 10:52 AM
Excellent idea.
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desi3933
08-27 04:41 PM
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Someone gave a RED and left these comments...
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Just gave you green.
Someone gave a RED and left these comments...
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Just gave you green.
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msp1976
02-02 09:34 PM
For all the current immigration and nationality law
Use URL and search for title 8..
http://uscode.house.gov/search/criteria.shtml
Use URL and search for title 8..
http://uscode.house.gov/search/criteria.shtml
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bsbawa10
09-08 05:09 AM
Is this campaign still on?
I did not see much enthusiasm on this issue.
Do people not want their files to be adjudicated or not?
looks like it is me and you only sweet_jungle. I will still go for it. I think people have either gotten their gc and the left out ones have lost hope.
I did not see much enthusiasm on this issue.
Do people not want their files to be adjudicated or not?
looks like it is me and you only sweet_jungle. I will still go for it. I think people have either gotten their gc and the left out ones have lost hope.
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cheg
07-17 06:59 PM
thank you thank you thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IV deserves only the best!!! I will start contributing because this organization helps a lot of people and we still have a long journey ahead of us. :)
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hopefulgc
09-12 04:06 PM
cool beans
Thanks to all for your input .. I am going to work on the letter when I get home tonight.
PLEASE keep visiting and refer people to this thread ..
Thanks to all for your input .. I am going to work on the letter when I get home tonight.
PLEASE keep visiting and refer people to this thread ..
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sanju_dba
12-19 03:25 PM
Contacted 17 of my friends with subject line
"Could you please Farward(1mnt) or Contribute(15mnts) for GC Seeking folks... -Thanks!"
and a link to this thread!
My small efforts for this community ! Thanks!
"Could you please Farward(1mnt) or Contribute(15mnts) for GC Seeking folks... -Thanks!"
and a link to this thread!
My small efforts for this community ! Thanks!
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hopesoon
12-07 11:08 AM
It is sad that we are even having this discussion and people would justify child birth under this circumstance
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485Mbe4001
07-10 12:14 PM
yep..very few care about EB, its all EB2 these days, one of the reasons i am very close to giving up, difficult to convince people these days. I am guessing that most EB3 I's have simply given up or have been bulldozed aside. We know for a fact that there are thousands in a similar situation, but they dont seem/want or care to voice their opinions.
I see that the above discussion keeps on going on about EB-2 only. Doesn't anyone at IV care about EB-3 I also . I am sure there are a few EB-3 I people at IV who are suffering from retrogression , myself included.
I see that the above discussion keeps on going on about EB-2 only. Doesn't anyone at IV care about EB-3 I also . I am sure there are a few EB-3 I people at IV who are suffering from retrogression , myself included.
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ThinkTwice
03-06 12:53 PM
I pledge $50 for this effort but I would also like to state that we should think before we move ahead, some items to consider are
- Some one mentioned that we should try to leverage the press to get coverage for the response.
- We should forward the response from USCIS to the president, first lady, ombudsman, Secretary of State etc
- Get an exact understanding of what information would benefit us most and make sure we ask specifically for that
- Try to negotiate a better rate with USCIC ;)
Peace
- Some one mentioned that we should try to leverage the press to get coverage for the response.
- We should forward the response from USCIS to the president, first lady, ombudsman, Secretary of State etc
- Get an exact understanding of what information would benefit us most and make sure we ask specifically for that
- Try to negotiate a better rate with USCIC ;)
Peace
sanju
02-25 10:49 AM
Great Idea. We can have a poll on this just to see how many support this.
ya, lets step-up a poll and have everyone vote, as if this is the US congress. And after voting leave it for someone else to work on this and other "brilliant" idea. There needs to be a reality check. This poll doesn't mean anything unless there are enough people to spend time and energy at every level. But ya, lets setup a poll and have everyone vote, it will give everyone a feel good factor that everyone contributed in the advocacy effort, how? by voting in the pool and not doing anything about how everyone votes.
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ya, lets step-up a poll and have everyone vote, as if this is the US congress. And after voting leave it for someone else to work on this and other "brilliant" idea. There needs to be a reality check. This poll doesn't mean anything unless there are enough people to spend time and energy at every level. But ya, lets setup a poll and have everyone vote, it will give everyone a feel good factor that everyone contributed in the advocacy effort, how? by voting in the pool and not doing anything about how everyone votes.
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santb1975
11-16 11:48 AM
Can members donate 50$?. Can we have a 50$ option as well?. I tried to see if paypal would let me change my amount but it did not.