pappu
10-16 12:46 PM
Are there only 3 people suffering from namechecks?
This issue can be pushed if we have strong support for it.
This issue can be pushed if we have strong support for it.
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anzerraja
07-19 06:21 PM
Thanks Husker !
We are getting started out as a new thread towards this administrative costs.
As a couple of members mentioned that the core will not take any money from the funds members contributed, and its is really unfortunate that Aman + all the core team have to spend a lot of money out of their pocket. I am not a CPA but have seen that a lot of NOP do set aside administrative funds. That how the organization would work. The good ones will have only 10% of funds towards administrative cost. The BEST ONE LIKE IV has NONE (No money for administrative cost!!!). I am sure the core will not want to dive into the funds people are giving BUT can members send money seperately to set up an administrative fund.
I like khodalmd idea, I know not everyone is going to chip in, but if we have atleat 1000 people we can all send $100, so that atleast the core team dont take on the financial burden of the entire community. People sent flowers, a lot of people sent flowers...I am sure atleat 1000 appreciative members can shell out $100 for IV.
I am game for the $100 suggested by anzerraja (I think)
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Contribution: Till now $300 + $50 re-occuring
We are getting started out as a new thread towards this administrative costs.
As a couple of members mentioned that the core will not take any money from the funds members contributed, and its is really unfortunate that Aman + all the core team have to spend a lot of money out of their pocket. I am not a CPA but have seen that a lot of NOP do set aside administrative funds. That how the organization would work. The good ones will have only 10% of funds towards administrative cost. The BEST ONE LIKE IV has NONE (No money for administrative cost!!!). I am sure the core will not want to dive into the funds people are giving BUT can members send money seperately to set up an administrative fund.
I like khodalmd idea, I know not everyone is going to chip in, but if we have atleat 1000 people we can all send $100, so that atleast the core team dont take on the financial burden of the entire community. People sent flowers, a lot of people sent flowers...I am sure atleat 1000 appreciative members can shell out $100 for IV.
I am game for the $100 suggested by anzerraja (I think)
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Contribution: Till now $300 + $50 re-occuring
lsuk
07-15 11:26 PM
done
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axp817
03-26 04:00 PM
and then received 2 RFEs :o
how long after the soft LUDs did you get the hard LUD (RFE)?
And what was the RFE for?
I had a soft LUD on 3/19/09.
Nothing has happened since.
Thanks for your time.
how long after the soft LUDs did you get the hard LUD (RFE)?
And what was the RFE for?
I had a soft LUD on 3/19/09.
Nothing has happened since.
Thanks for your time.
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needhelp!
09-24 07:08 PM
There have been a lot of updates sent out via the verified state chapter mailing lists. If you are not part of any state chapter please check this page http://immigrationvoice.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=72&Itemid=52 and if there is no state chapter for your state, you can request to become member of a neighboring state chapter.
http://boards.immigration.com/showthread.php?t=286606
I know the post was entirely wrong and foolish.
But I feel that I am in the dark about IV activities for the past one year.
I am one of the silent IV Supporters and long time (from the beginning) monthly contributing IV Member.
It would be better to have a special thread/monthly bulleting page from IV to tell the members to know about IV activities or progress.
After the last year July fiasco issue I have not seen any posting about IV activities on the web site other than lot of threads and could not able to figure out the work IV is exactly doing.
I strongly believe because of IV core team only we were able to come through successful in July 2007 Bulletin issue. But do not know what else is IV doing for the past 12 months.
The Flowers, Letters and Phone Calls is not working as we expect. I do not know about other activities other than sending letters and phones during every congress session.
I believe IV need to do some thing different. There is no media reports about legal immigration issue (not for IV) for the past one year.
My perspective is that we need to find a way that Media and Public will aware of the issues we face every day.
I am not questioning the IV Core Team. It would be great if the IV members know some details about IV activities every month in a bulletin or thread etc.
Thanks
vselvam
http://boards.immigration.com/showthread.php?t=286606
I know the post was entirely wrong and foolish.
But I feel that I am in the dark about IV activities for the past one year.
I am one of the silent IV Supporters and long time (from the beginning) monthly contributing IV Member.
It would be better to have a special thread/monthly bulleting page from IV to tell the members to know about IV activities or progress.
After the last year July fiasco issue I have not seen any posting about IV activities on the web site other than lot of threads and could not able to figure out the work IV is exactly doing.
I strongly believe because of IV core team only we were able to come through successful in July 2007 Bulletin issue. But do not know what else is IV doing for the past 12 months.
The Flowers, Letters and Phone Calls is not working as we expect. I do not know about other activities other than sending letters and phones during every congress session.
I believe IV need to do some thing different. There is no media reports about legal immigration issue (not for IV) for the past one year.
My perspective is that we need to find a way that Media and Public will aware of the issues we face every day.
I am not questioning the IV Core Team. It would be great if the IV members know some details about IV activities every month in a bulletin or thread etc.
Thanks
vselvam
rustamehind
07-11 11:19 AM
"My company lawyer says that we have the option of filing the adjustment of status on our own and company won't support it.Its not about money , its just that they don't want to support filings after the revised July bulletin.
They are also saying we should wait for October bulletin , but don't want to predict how much the priority dates are going to shift."
It all adds to more confusion & chaos.The more questions you ask, the more confused you get.:D
They are also saying we should wait for October bulletin , but don't want to predict how much the priority dates are going to shift."
It all adds to more confusion & chaos.The more questions you ask, the more confused you get.:D
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anandrajesh
02-13 04:42 PM
I realize that there is no point in telling you guys anything. When you don't have an open mind, you can not accept the facts. It's like banging your heads against steel wall. When you are not even ready to diagnose the disease, there is little hope you will be able to cure it. Denial is a beautiful thing.
So I apologize for my comments.
Here is something you will love:
Congratulations IV and the core team! Keep up the good work.
Show some Courage Dude. Take up a role in your state chapter, go meet the lawmaker, Educate them on the difficulties we face, write to the reporters & highlight our issues. Contact the Core and ask for responsibilities. I am sure the Core would be happy to delegate some of the responsibilities to you.
Why dont you do all of this, before criticizing everyone who is involved in the noble effort?
So I apologize for my comments.
Here is something you will love:
Congratulations IV and the core team! Keep up the good work.
Show some Courage Dude. Take up a role in your state chapter, go meet the lawmaker, Educate them on the difficulties we face, write to the reporters & highlight our issues. Contact the Core and ask for responsibilities. I am sure the Core would be happy to delegate some of the responsibilities to you.
Why dont you do all of this, before criticizing everyone who is involved in the noble effort?
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HRPRO
03-29 04:26 PM
I suggest to focus on getting a job and you can nail him any time later.
Was my initial suggestion Nathan but he has decided to go back home
Was my initial suggestion Nathan but he has decided to go back home
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sobers
02-22 12:31 PM
Whether it is logical or not, whether we like it or not, the issues of illegal and legal immigration are intrinsically tied up (to the disadvantage of skilled workers, of course:-()
Anyhow, this appeared in today's Wall Street Journal...it may forbode a taste of things to come..or not come..this one focusses on the DREAM Act which is geared to provide in-state tuition to illegal immigrants..
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Should Illegal Immigrants Get Tuition Help?
States' Varying Stances on College-Education Benefit Illustrate Congress's Overhaul Task
By JUNE KRONHOLZ
February 22, 2006; Page A4
WASHINGTON -- An emotional state-level dispute over college tuition shows how tough it will be for Congress to overhaul immigration laws and extend citizenship benefits to the country's estimated 11 million illegal immigrants.
Four years ago, California passed a law granting in-state tuition to students who were in the U.S. illegally but had graduated from a California high school. Eight other states followed, allowing illegal immigrants to attend public colleges for in-state student fees -- usually less than half what out-of-state students pay.
DiAnna Schimek, a Democrat who heads the Nebraska Senate's education committee, says she has pushed for an in-state tuition bill for illegal immigrants as a matter of compassion and economic calculation. "These children didn't bring themselves" but were brought by their parents, she says. "It's only a good investment on our part to make certain they are productive citizens."
But attitudes have been hardening as an estimated 400,000 illegal immigrants flood in yearly. "That's an alarm to the people here ... it's a drain on the economy," says Rep. Glenn Donnelson, a Utah Republican who heads an education committee in his state.
So while some legislators want to extend tuition benefits to illegal immigrants in their states, others are calling for laws to deny the benefit -- or take it back.
Lawmakers in Utah, Kansas and New Mexico -- which passed in-state tuition benefits only two or three years ago -- now are waging uphill fights to repeal them. Massachusetts legislators last month rejected a bill to offer in-state tuition benefits to illegal immigrants.
Six states are considering measures that would deny in-state tuition, tuition waivers or state scholarships to illegal immigrants. In New York, which offers in-state tuition to illegal immigrants, and Virginia, which recently passed a law offering benefits to some, bills have been introduced to bar illegal immigrants from attending public colleges.
Meanwhile, lawsuits challenging in-state tuition for illegal immigrants have been filed in California and in Kansas. "There's something wrong with giving a benefit to an illegal that we don't even give to citizens of other states," says state Rep. Becky Hutchins, a Kansas Republican leading a repeal effort there.
The tuition laws generally require illegal immigrants to have attended a local high school for three years, to have graduated or earned a high-school equivalency and to sign an affidavit promising to legalize their immigration status as soon as they are eligible.
Promoters expect few students to actually take up the benefit. Dropout rates are high and academic scores generally are low among Hispanics, who account for the majority of illegal aliens. And even in-state tuition, which averages about $5,500 this year, may be out of reach for children whose parents typically hold minimum-wage jobs.
Kris Kobach, a University of Missouri law professor who brought a federal suit against the Kansas program, says 221 illegal immigrants are enrolled in Kansas public colleges this year, and that even when the benefit becomes widely known, the number probably wouldn't exceed 2,700.
Even so, in-state tuition laws have become flashpoint among some voters who feel they haven't any other way to protest illegal immigration. Federal laws allow illegal immigrants to use emergency medical services, and a 1982 Supreme Court decision entitles their children to public education through high school.
Rod Adair, a New Mexico state senator who introduced unsuccessful legislation to repeal his state's immigrant-tuition benefit, says he was acting "in response to my constituents. They're frustrated."
Prof. Kobach's suit contends Kansas's in-state tuition benefit violates a federal law that prohibits states from giving any benefit to an illegal alien that they don't also extend to all U.S. citizens.
Among his plaintiffs, Heidi Hydeman, an Iowa native, says she was charged out-of-state tuition by the University of Kansas, though she lived in Kansas for six years and paid Kansas income tax for three years while attending the school. "I thought it was unfair," says Ms. Hydeman.
Mr. Donnelson, the Utah legislator, says Utah would face a $34 million bill if a similar suit were filed there, and current out-of-state students were refunded the difference between in-state tuition and the nonresident tuition they pay.
But legislators' doubts go beyond that. Although illegal immigrants who get the tuition benefit pledge to legalize their status, there is almost no way they can do that under current laws. And even with a college degree, there is almost no way for illegal immigrants to legally get a job.
For years, congressional supporters have promoted a measure, called the Dream Act, that would clear up those problems. States would be allowed to offer in-state tuition to illegal-immigrant students who, in turn, could become citizens.
In 2003, almost half the Senate cosponsored the Dream Act. But the Dream Act's prospects have faded, and this year its pivotal supporter, Utah Republican Sen. Orrin Hatch, withdrew as a sponsor. "Realistically, the Dream Act will not pass" and should be included in an overhaul of immigration laws, he said.
But the tensions fueling opposition to in-state tuition laws are the same ones making it hard for Congress to pass immigration overhaul. A coalition of pro-business Republicans, Democrats, immigrant-rights groups and labor unions wants new federal laws that would let illegal immigrants eventually become citizens.
They are being stymied, however, by social conservatives, who worry about being culturally overwhelmed by immigrants, and by Republican national-security hawks, who are demanding that Washington cut off illegal immigration first. The tension prevented the U.S. House from taking up immigration overhaul last year, and is complicating the Senate's efforts to pass it this year.
Write to June Kronholz at june.kronholz@wsj.com
Anyhow, this appeared in today's Wall Street Journal...it may forbode a taste of things to come..or not come..this one focusses on the DREAM Act which is geared to provide in-state tuition to illegal immigrants..
---------------
Should Illegal Immigrants Get Tuition Help?
States' Varying Stances on College-Education Benefit Illustrate Congress's Overhaul Task
By JUNE KRONHOLZ
February 22, 2006; Page A4
WASHINGTON -- An emotional state-level dispute over college tuition shows how tough it will be for Congress to overhaul immigration laws and extend citizenship benefits to the country's estimated 11 million illegal immigrants.
Four years ago, California passed a law granting in-state tuition to students who were in the U.S. illegally but had graduated from a California high school. Eight other states followed, allowing illegal immigrants to attend public colleges for in-state student fees -- usually less than half what out-of-state students pay.
DiAnna Schimek, a Democrat who heads the Nebraska Senate's education committee, says she has pushed for an in-state tuition bill for illegal immigrants as a matter of compassion and economic calculation. "These children didn't bring themselves" but were brought by their parents, she says. "It's only a good investment on our part to make certain they are productive citizens."
But attitudes have been hardening as an estimated 400,000 illegal immigrants flood in yearly. "That's an alarm to the people here ... it's a drain on the economy," says Rep. Glenn Donnelson, a Utah Republican who heads an education committee in his state.
So while some legislators want to extend tuition benefits to illegal immigrants in their states, others are calling for laws to deny the benefit -- or take it back.
Lawmakers in Utah, Kansas and New Mexico -- which passed in-state tuition benefits only two or three years ago -- now are waging uphill fights to repeal them. Massachusetts legislators last month rejected a bill to offer in-state tuition benefits to illegal immigrants.
Six states are considering measures that would deny in-state tuition, tuition waivers or state scholarships to illegal immigrants. In New York, which offers in-state tuition to illegal immigrants, and Virginia, which recently passed a law offering benefits to some, bills have been introduced to bar illegal immigrants from attending public colleges.
Meanwhile, lawsuits challenging in-state tuition for illegal immigrants have been filed in California and in Kansas. "There's something wrong with giving a benefit to an illegal that we don't even give to citizens of other states," says state Rep. Becky Hutchins, a Kansas Republican leading a repeal effort there.
The tuition laws generally require illegal immigrants to have attended a local high school for three years, to have graduated or earned a high-school equivalency and to sign an affidavit promising to legalize their immigration status as soon as they are eligible.
Promoters expect few students to actually take up the benefit. Dropout rates are high and academic scores generally are low among Hispanics, who account for the majority of illegal aliens. And even in-state tuition, which averages about $5,500 this year, may be out of reach for children whose parents typically hold minimum-wage jobs.
Kris Kobach, a University of Missouri law professor who brought a federal suit against the Kansas program, says 221 illegal immigrants are enrolled in Kansas public colleges this year, and that even when the benefit becomes widely known, the number probably wouldn't exceed 2,700.
Even so, in-state tuition laws have become flashpoint among some voters who feel they haven't any other way to protest illegal immigration. Federal laws allow illegal immigrants to use emergency medical services, and a 1982 Supreme Court decision entitles their children to public education through high school.
Rod Adair, a New Mexico state senator who introduced unsuccessful legislation to repeal his state's immigrant-tuition benefit, says he was acting "in response to my constituents. They're frustrated."
Prof. Kobach's suit contends Kansas's in-state tuition benefit violates a federal law that prohibits states from giving any benefit to an illegal alien that they don't also extend to all U.S. citizens.
Among his plaintiffs, Heidi Hydeman, an Iowa native, says she was charged out-of-state tuition by the University of Kansas, though she lived in Kansas for six years and paid Kansas income tax for three years while attending the school. "I thought it was unfair," says Ms. Hydeman.
Mr. Donnelson, the Utah legislator, says Utah would face a $34 million bill if a similar suit were filed there, and current out-of-state students were refunded the difference between in-state tuition and the nonresident tuition they pay.
But legislators' doubts go beyond that. Although illegal immigrants who get the tuition benefit pledge to legalize their status, there is almost no way they can do that under current laws. And even with a college degree, there is almost no way for illegal immigrants to legally get a job.
For years, congressional supporters have promoted a measure, called the Dream Act, that would clear up those problems. States would be allowed to offer in-state tuition to illegal-immigrant students who, in turn, could become citizens.
In 2003, almost half the Senate cosponsored the Dream Act. But the Dream Act's prospects have faded, and this year its pivotal supporter, Utah Republican Sen. Orrin Hatch, withdrew as a sponsor. "Realistically, the Dream Act will not pass" and should be included in an overhaul of immigration laws, he said.
But the tensions fueling opposition to in-state tuition laws are the same ones making it hard for Congress to pass immigration overhaul. A coalition of pro-business Republicans, Democrats, immigrant-rights groups and labor unions wants new federal laws that would let illegal immigrants eventually become citizens.
They are being stymied, however, by social conservatives, who worry about being culturally overwhelmed by immigrants, and by Republican national-security hawks, who are demanding that Washington cut off illegal immigration first. The tension prevented the U.S. House from taking up immigration overhaul last year, and is complicating the Senate's efforts to pass it this year.
Write to June Kronholz at june.kronholz@wsj.com
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sobers
02-22 09:51 AM
Bill Frist Website
http://frist.senate.gov/index.cfm?FuseAction=Columns.Detail&Column_id=82
AMERICA MUST NURTURE HOMEGROWN HIGH-TECHNOLOGY WORKFORCE
--Op/Ed in San Jose Mercury News--
Senator Frist listens as Dr. James Wingate, President of LeMoyne-Owen College in Tennessee, expresses support for the inclusion of the SMART Grant program in this week's Senate budget reconciliation bill, 11/2/05
February 2006 - Every time I visit Silicon Valley I'm reminded of a simple fact: American businesses lead the world because they employ talented people. From the top executives at companies like Apple and Cisco to the science and engineering students I'll speak with Monday at San Jose State University, Americans sit on the cutting edge of technology.
We have less than 5 percent of the world's population but produce almost a quarter of its wealth and enjoy the highest per capita income of any large industrial economy. Americans receive more patents than the citizens of any other country, have the world's best university system, do most of the world's basic research, and take home the lion's share of Nobel Prizes in the sciences.
As many people working in Northern California's technology sector have realized, however, we can't afford complacence. China and India together now produce at least twice as many engineers as the United States. Both have fast growing populations and high-quality universities. In search of profits, companies have begun to outsource more low- and medium-skilled jobs to these nations.
No amount of funding, furthermore, would allow the United States to catch -- much less exceed -- China and India's combined production of scientific personnel. We just don't have enough people. Even at our own universities, foreigners earn an ever-increasing percentage of degrees in the hard sciences. Some remain, but many end up taking their valuable skills back home. American companies, meanwhile, have thousands of scientific and engineering openings that they can't fill.
If we hope to remain the world's pre-eminent economic power,/ we need to produce more scientists and engineers and train them better. One recent study, indeed, found that 85 percent of income growth stems from technological change.
While every American deserves a high-quality education, we need to target additional resources on the most talented students to ensure America retains its competitive edge. In particular, we need to provide an incentive to all of America's bright, driven low-income students who want to pursue careers in the sciences. Right now, far too many talented students from poor backgrounds drop out of college or shift away from hard science because of the expense. It's bad for the country.
One program that the president signed into law earlier this year takes the first major step toward fixing the problem. The SMART Grant program, which I developed, will focus assistance on students in science, math and strategic foreign languages who earn B averages or better during their junior and senior years of college. Next year, the California State University system estimates, more than 3,000 students systemwide -- including many at San Jose State -- will benefit from the program. Many will have their tuition payments eliminated entirely and the numbers will rise in coming years as the program attracts more people into the sciences. Thousands more students in the University of California system will also benefit.
Of course, tuition subsidies alone can't ensure that we'll have enough talented workers. In the coming months, Congress will consider the president's proposals to improve K-12 math education, increase funding for basic research, support high-risk/high-reward applied science projects, and make the research and development tax credit permanent. Fiscal realities, of course, will play a role in any final decision as Congress examines these proposals.
Silicon Valley companies already do an excellent job recruiting America's best and brightest. Now the government needs to build on its efforts to increase the ranks of homegrown scientists and engineers.
http://frist.senate.gov/index.cfm?FuseAction=Columns.Detail&Column_id=82
AMERICA MUST NURTURE HOMEGROWN HIGH-TECHNOLOGY WORKFORCE
--Op/Ed in San Jose Mercury News--
Senator Frist listens as Dr. James Wingate, President of LeMoyne-Owen College in Tennessee, expresses support for the inclusion of the SMART Grant program in this week's Senate budget reconciliation bill, 11/2/05
February 2006 - Every time I visit Silicon Valley I'm reminded of a simple fact: American businesses lead the world because they employ talented people. From the top executives at companies like Apple and Cisco to the science and engineering students I'll speak with Monday at San Jose State University, Americans sit on the cutting edge of technology.
We have less than 5 percent of the world's population but produce almost a quarter of its wealth and enjoy the highest per capita income of any large industrial economy. Americans receive more patents than the citizens of any other country, have the world's best university system, do most of the world's basic research, and take home the lion's share of Nobel Prizes in the sciences.
As many people working in Northern California's technology sector have realized, however, we can't afford complacence. China and India together now produce at least twice as many engineers as the United States. Both have fast growing populations and high-quality universities. In search of profits, companies have begun to outsource more low- and medium-skilled jobs to these nations.
No amount of funding, furthermore, would allow the United States to catch -- much less exceed -- China and India's combined production of scientific personnel. We just don't have enough people. Even at our own universities, foreigners earn an ever-increasing percentage of degrees in the hard sciences. Some remain, but many end up taking their valuable skills back home. American companies, meanwhile, have thousands of scientific and engineering openings that they can't fill.
If we hope to remain the world's pre-eminent economic power,/ we need to produce more scientists and engineers and train them better. One recent study, indeed, found that 85 percent of income growth stems from technological change.
While every American deserves a high-quality education, we need to target additional resources on the most talented students to ensure America retains its competitive edge. In particular, we need to provide an incentive to all of America's bright, driven low-income students who want to pursue careers in the sciences. Right now, far too many talented students from poor backgrounds drop out of college or shift away from hard science because of the expense. It's bad for the country.
One program that the president signed into law earlier this year takes the first major step toward fixing the problem. The SMART Grant program, which I developed, will focus assistance on students in science, math and strategic foreign languages who earn B averages or better during their junior and senior years of college. Next year, the California State University system estimates, more than 3,000 students systemwide -- including many at San Jose State -- will benefit from the program. Many will have their tuition payments eliminated entirely and the numbers will rise in coming years as the program attracts more people into the sciences. Thousands more students in the University of California system will also benefit.
Of course, tuition subsidies alone can't ensure that we'll have enough talented workers. In the coming months, Congress will consider the president's proposals to improve K-12 math education, increase funding for basic research, support high-risk/high-reward applied science projects, and make the research and development tax credit permanent. Fiscal realities, of course, will play a role in any final decision as Congress examines these proposals.
Silicon Valley companies already do an excellent job recruiting America's best and brightest. Now the government needs to build on its efforts to increase the ranks of homegrown scientists and engineers.
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gc28262
11-03 09:21 AM
That is so TRUE! Ask me I finished my undergraduate from US, and I didn't get selected in the H1 lottery system 3 times, yes 3 times. Neither my wife's labor was cleared in July fiasco. So imagine my situation.
So,
who do I blame? US govt? Or these Desi companies who have exploited H1B system to the core, abusing the system and making our lives miserable each day. Well I am about to join an organization, which will report these Desi companies straight to Department of Commerce, there are a group of students from other Universities who are planning to be a part of the organization.
Your question is genuine. Whom to blame ? definitely US gov for not providing enough H1B numbers.
What makes you think the permanent employees are better qualified to get an H1 than the ones from consulting companies ?
Generally consultants are highly competitive than the so called "permanent" employees. Many US graduates are employed due to some agreement between the universities and companies. During my consulting career, I have seen so many mediocre permanent employees who were hired just because they graduated from some XYZ US university.
I had a colleague who was PHD in computer science from some US university. His main topic of PHD, "parrallel processing". He didn't even have a proper understanding of different POSIX thread calls which he used for his PHD. That is the value of a US degree or PHD. Your degree is only as good as you !
I have been seeing many members talking about taking on consulting companies so that they can get better chunk of H1B visas. If you are that smart, go ahead and lobby for GC exemption for US graduates.
I know how labors are certified for the "permanent" employees. I was called as a candidate for one of those interviews.
Remember, if I ( the consultant) am coming down I am bringing down you ( permanent employee) with me.
Think before you leap !
So,
who do I blame? US govt? Or these Desi companies who have exploited H1B system to the core, abusing the system and making our lives miserable each day. Well I am about to join an organization, which will report these Desi companies straight to Department of Commerce, there are a group of students from other Universities who are planning to be a part of the organization.
Your question is genuine. Whom to blame ? definitely US gov for not providing enough H1B numbers.
What makes you think the permanent employees are better qualified to get an H1 than the ones from consulting companies ?
Generally consultants are highly competitive than the so called "permanent" employees. Many US graduates are employed due to some agreement between the universities and companies. During my consulting career, I have seen so many mediocre permanent employees who were hired just because they graduated from some XYZ US university.
I had a colleague who was PHD in computer science from some US university. His main topic of PHD, "parrallel processing". He didn't even have a proper understanding of different POSIX thread calls which he used for his PHD. That is the value of a US degree or PHD. Your degree is only as good as you !
I have been seeing many members talking about taking on consulting companies so that they can get better chunk of H1B visas. If you are that smart, go ahead and lobby for GC exemption for US graduates.
I know how labors are certified for the "permanent" employees. I was called as a candidate for one of those interviews.
Remember, if I ( the consultant) am coming down I am bringing down you ( permanent employee) with me.
Think before you leap !
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anandrajesh
02-01 12:26 PM
Please donot let this thread a self-flogging ritual...
We the H1Bs are the victims of the this system. We did not create this system. It is true that there are social costs associated with this system. Abolishing the system is not the solution. Reform and making the system just is the solution..That is all we are asking for....
Blaming the victim of an atrocity for the atrocity is sheer stupidity....
Remember for Every Google, there is a ENRON. So based on ENRON experience you dont generalize all American Corps are dishonest.
Same logic applies here i work for a Small "Desi" Company and they are very honest and pay me reasonably well. They dont break laws or find ways to circumvent it. So i dont like to hear all H1Bs Companies are Cheats.
We the H1Bs are the victims of the this system. We did not create this system. It is true that there are social costs associated with this system. Abolishing the system is not the solution. Reform and making the system just is the solution..That is all we are asking for....
Blaming the victim of an atrocity for the atrocity is sheer stupidity....
Remember for Every Google, there is a ENRON. So based on ENRON experience you dont generalize all American Corps are dishonest.
Same logic applies here i work for a Small "Desi" Company and they are very honest and pay me reasonably well. They dont break laws or find ways to circumvent it. So i dont like to hear all H1Bs Companies are Cheats.
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Macaca
11-19 02:07 PM
The ONLY reason for CIR derailment was public opposition generated MAINLY by Lou LIAR DoGGs & Associates. Thus, there is no reason to believe that countering their effort should have lower priority then ANY other activity.
Programmers Guild, numbers USA, ALIPAC, zazona, are the 1st to blog at EVERY immigration site. Numbers USA is already there at Bill Clinton and Obama Agree: GOP Will Make Immigration an Issue (http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2007/11/09/post_191.html) & Programmers Guild is at Senators Want International Students to Stay Longer (http://news.ncmonline.com/news/view_article.html?article_id=918edda3d6c4761cec157 6421181ab8a). They are not doing it for NOTHING.
It is not possible to win every battle with them. At the same time it is not good to ignore every battle.
The problem is that this takes time. Also, the arguments have become deeper and require good understanding of issues based on reading. It is Immigration 401 now. Most IV agruments have moved to middle school and will soon move to pre-school.
Also, benefits of confrontation are hard to quantify and will not be IMMEDIATE. It will always be work in progress.
I had ignored the H1B argument since it did not affect me. I have started paying attention to it recently, which takes time. Excepting for 3+ provable arguments against Indian Consulting companies, all anti-H1B arguments are G A R B A G E. You can see the contradictions in an article if you read it carefully; some paras are contradicting. You can contradict the others by quoting other articles.
However, Programmers Guild keeps on spreading LIES at every opportunity. They are not doing it because it is useless!
In short, please learn how to learn.
Programmers Guild, numbers USA, ALIPAC, zazona, are the 1st to blog at EVERY immigration site. Numbers USA is already there at Bill Clinton and Obama Agree: GOP Will Make Immigration an Issue (http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2007/11/09/post_191.html) & Programmers Guild is at Senators Want International Students to Stay Longer (http://news.ncmonline.com/news/view_article.html?article_id=918edda3d6c4761cec157 6421181ab8a). They are not doing it for NOTHING.
It is not possible to win every battle with them. At the same time it is not good to ignore every battle.
The problem is that this takes time. Also, the arguments have become deeper and require good understanding of issues based on reading. It is Immigration 401 now. Most IV agruments have moved to middle school and will soon move to pre-school.
Also, benefits of confrontation are hard to quantify and will not be IMMEDIATE. It will always be work in progress.
I had ignored the H1B argument since it did not affect me. I have started paying attention to it recently, which takes time. Excepting for 3+ provable arguments against Indian Consulting companies, all anti-H1B arguments are G A R B A G E. You can see the contradictions in an article if you read it carefully; some paras are contradicting. You can contradict the others by quoting other articles.
However, Programmers Guild keeps on spreading LIES at every opportunity. They are not doing it because it is useless!
In short, please learn how to learn.
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walking_dude
12-03 05:29 PM
Contrary to what most believe - Contributing is the easiest thing to do. Send some money and forget about it. And the most effective one too. Lobbying is IVs greatest tool to make changes in the legal system. If you still don't get it, you cannot get any law passed in Washington without lobbying. Whatever we do on the side is to help that effort.
Volunteering is much more tougher. By volunteering I don't mean giving the next Brightest Unworkable idea or the daily-dose of rants on an online forum. Volunteering in my world (real one) means sacrificing personal time (with family) for the greater good of a community.
Calling members, planning & conducting meetings, telecons, write letters to lawmakers and meet them, put IV booths in local events. In short, it's a thankless job. At the end of the day you're more hated than loved (ask Chandu)!
IMO Volunteering and contribution are not separate. It's member buy-in. Either you agree to a principle or you don't. If you agree, you'll contribute as well as volunteer (when you can). If you don't agree, you don't.
Volunteering is much more tougher. By volunteering I don't mean giving the next Brightest Unworkable idea or the daily-dose of rants on an online forum. Volunteering in my world (real one) means sacrificing personal time (with family) for the greater good of a community.
Calling members, planning & conducting meetings, telecons, write letters to lawmakers and meet them, put IV booths in local events. In short, it's a thankless job. At the end of the day you're more hated than loved (ask Chandu)!
IMO Volunteering and contribution are not separate. It's member buy-in. Either you agree to a principle or you don't. If you agree, you'll contribute as well as volunteer (when you can). If you don't agree, you don't.
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InTheMoment
05-07 09:13 PM
And...can you please tell where you got this translation and what verse are you referring to ?!!!
I totally understand the emotional point of someone being want to be a Indian Citizen but I have to stress there is no other country in the world like U.S.A. This is the country where every human being is treated with utmost respect (don't try to show me exceptions - U.S. is a country where most of things are close to being perfect imaginatively), have freedom to say anything they want without getting intimidated and U.S is a country I believe will be the last bastion for humanity when terrosists/fundamentalists spread their tentancles and take over the world by force or other means (if not now probabbly in the next 100-150 years). Hypocrisy is relatively less. We Indians live in a dream world nurtured by the Indian politicians, who try to inject doses of patriotic non-sense into the masses while they themselves stove away million of dollars in Swiss banks. 70% of Indian population lives below poverty line and the educated masses of India think that their country will become a super power by 2020. Politicians like Mayawati play caste politics and dream of taking the top most post while our liberal media, without a wee-bit of shame, extends its highest support for them. Corruption is part of our daily life and we are part of the everyday corruption but we still find no fault in our society. Our population growth is beyond control while not a single politician is concerned about the stress it is going to create on our natural resources in the future. Our education system is in shambles but our great politicians fight for increasing the reservation system to different castes just for the sake of garnering more votes. And the list goes on. Alas���God help India.
FYI: I am a Indian and haven't even started my greencard process, for the same emotional reasons you mentioned, intending to R2I soon. Given a choice and circumstances, I would have opted for U.S.C as "I have no hope for this world neither do I wish for it" - quoting Bhagawan Krishna from Bhagavad Gita.
I totally understand the emotional point of someone being want to be a Indian Citizen but I have to stress there is no other country in the world like U.S.A. This is the country where every human being is treated with utmost respect (don't try to show me exceptions - U.S. is a country where most of things are close to being perfect imaginatively), have freedom to say anything they want without getting intimidated and U.S is a country I believe will be the last bastion for humanity when terrosists/fundamentalists spread their tentancles and take over the world by force or other means (if not now probabbly in the next 100-150 years). Hypocrisy is relatively less. We Indians live in a dream world nurtured by the Indian politicians, who try to inject doses of patriotic non-sense into the masses while they themselves stove away million of dollars in Swiss banks. 70% of Indian population lives below poverty line and the educated masses of India think that their country will become a super power by 2020. Politicians like Mayawati play caste politics and dream of taking the top most post while our liberal media, without a wee-bit of shame, extends its highest support for them. Corruption is part of our daily life and we are part of the everyday corruption but we still find no fault in our society. Our population growth is beyond control while not a single politician is concerned about the stress it is going to create on our natural resources in the future. Our education system is in shambles but our great politicians fight for increasing the reservation system to different castes just for the sake of garnering more votes. And the list goes on. Alas���God help India.
FYI: I am a Indian and haven't even started my greencard process, for the same emotional reasons you mentioned, intending to R2I soon. Given a choice and circumstances, I would have opted for U.S.C as "I have no hope for this world neither do I wish for it" - quoting Bhagawan Krishna from Bhagavad Gita.
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snathan
05-12 11:37 PM
This might come as a surprise to some of you, but someone needs to say it out loud. GET A LIFE FOLKS!!!! there is more to life then EB, GC and all. it seem all we desi's can think of is how to get a green card so we can live here with peace and never have to worry bout getting laid off or anything.
Few points:
1) having gc is a privilege not a right.
2) US has every right to choose whom they want to have in their country.
3) If getting PR or citizenship of a western country is the goal there are many countries which have a fair point based system.
4) Considering the number of fraud's committed by Indian body shoppers and people who use them, i am not surprised USCIS is extra careful when it comes to Indian applications. Anyone who got his wife with no exp with software dev an h1b visa from some cheat in Jersey knows what i am talking bout . My freind got his wife an H1 after showing she knew software testing even though her major was fine arts and all she was good at was web surfing :)
5) have a back up. i came here in 2001 as student and have seen it all. I am on h1b since 2004. i knew we have too many people whose sole aim in life is a American GC. to avoid becoming one of those who check processing dates first thing in morning, i applied for Canadian PR, got it in 8 months and i am not even gonna bother applying for labor, i-140 and all those precious life controlling documents.
Wake up friends, you have options. Don't let your life depend on you application status.
Nitin
I would have taken it seriouly if you didnt spend six years in the US and did not run away to the Canada. Atleast if you gone back to india, it makes much more sense.
Few points:
1) having gc is a privilege not a right.
2) US has every right to choose whom they want to have in their country.
3) If getting PR or citizenship of a western country is the goal there are many countries which have a fair point based system.
4) Considering the number of fraud's committed by Indian body shoppers and people who use them, i am not surprised USCIS is extra careful when it comes to Indian applications. Anyone who got his wife with no exp with software dev an h1b visa from some cheat in Jersey knows what i am talking bout . My freind got his wife an H1 after showing she knew software testing even though her major was fine arts and all she was good at was web surfing :)
5) have a back up. i came here in 2001 as student and have seen it all. I am on h1b since 2004. i knew we have too many people whose sole aim in life is a American GC. to avoid becoming one of those who check processing dates first thing in morning, i applied for Canadian PR, got it in 8 months and i am not even gonna bother applying for labor, i-140 and all those precious life controlling documents.
Wake up friends, you have options. Don't let your life depend on you application status.
Nitin
I would have taken it seriouly if you didnt spend six years in the US and did not run away to the Canada. Atleast if you gone back to india, it makes much more sense.
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desi485
02-11 02:24 PM
I did paid consultation to find answer to this question with murthy office. As per them, one can do transfer and extension of H1B even after using AP as long as the current I-797 is still valid.
Thank you so much for sharing your information with the rest of us. It is people like you who makes this IV Forums so valuable.
What 'casinoroyale' mentioned does sound logical to me. H1 can either be VALID or INVALID. (there is no third state). if its valid it can be transferred or extended.
If someone says its valid but can not be transferred, means we are talking about a third kind of H1B here which is neither VALID nor INVALID. An H1B only valid with current employer and which can not be transferred or even extended. Thankfully, this kind of third state does not exists.
However I am no legal expert on this and hence asking others to share their experience on this.
Thank you so much for sharing your information with the rest of us. It is people like you who makes this IV Forums so valuable.
What 'casinoroyale' mentioned does sound logical to me. H1 can either be VALID or INVALID. (there is no third state). if its valid it can be transferred or extended.
If someone says its valid but can not be transferred, means we are talking about a third kind of H1B here which is neither VALID nor INVALID. An H1B only valid with current employer and which can not be transferred or even extended. Thankfully, this kind of third state does not exists.
However I am no legal expert on this and hence asking others to share their experience on this.
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485Mbe4001
09-17 02:27 PM
this seems to be the plan all along. Keeping pushing the ammendments and divert the discussion from the actual issues. A tactic to run down the clock, shows that he is doing something but nothing gets done. Helps the anti immigrants but royally screws us. Same will happen in the House and Senate if this thing moves forward....just venting after watching this snail crawl..god knows why they waste taxpayer money by adding ammendments and wasting everybodies time.
Smith is bringing his 8th ammendment. Lets just sleep guys.
Smith is bringing his 8th ammendment. Lets just sleep guys.
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chanduv23
02-01 12:21 PM
People want to bash consultancies for their practices. I am currently trying to recruit a c++ programmer to work with me, and I find resumes on dice from US citizens and GC holders, most of these resumes are bloated to a large extent.
Resume bloating is a common practice, there will be very few honest people, it is upto the employer to do strict scrutiny on resumes.
Let us not associate resume bloating or consultancies with retro situation.
Resume bloating is a common practice, there will be very few honest people, it is upto the employer to do strict scrutiny on resumes.
Let us not associate resume bloating or consultancies with retro situation.
creativeskills
06-12 07:57 AM
here is my first post to the battles ever... !! hope i do this good ... :sigh:
It�s " The Grunge Pod" ....
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I hope u guys will come with comments...
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It�s " The Grunge Pod" ....
http://goodfellashop.com/img_d/ipod_v2.jpg
I hope u guys will come with comments...
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bkarnik
09-17 02:35 PM
Another one. Please wait. Still 6020
King is losing it...he is referring to this bill as HR5882 instead of 6020...shows where he stands wrt immigration in general!!!!
King is losing it...he is referring to this bill as HR5882 instead of 6020...shows where he stands wrt immigration in general!!!!