kumarc123
01-10 09:38 AM
I have been a IV member since 2006 . I have seen the ups/downs . donated money , sent letters , attended rallies and done whatever has been been proposed . But I see that many senior members who had the drive to motivate people are not sending or being part of any messages or threads at all and that is exactly why the movement seems to be losing steam .
The standard response that I see to any question is "have you donated money ? " . "Don't ask for anything till you have donated. " this is followed by some some red dots which normally works to silence the questions. People will be willing to donate when they believe in the movement . I remember we collected $ 30,000 in 1 month before the rally there was huge thread with all the donations . People were charged up and the money came up automatically . I am willing to donate but to be brutally honest I do not see the same level of motivation as was there in 2006 / 2007 days .Please use this as a wakeup call and not as reason to vent your frustration on me .
There are many senior members who I do not even see any more . Members joining in late 2007 or early 2008 will not know any of these guys .
Aman Kapoor . He is the founder of IV . I have not seen his messages since the past 3 years almost . Where is he ? Is it too much for him to send a greeting in New years eve motivating the members ? It takes just 2 minutes .
Mark Bartosik :- He was supposed to the spokesperson for IV .The guy with the MasterCard sign for immigration . I have not seen him for quite some time now
Where are the other senior leaders like
a) Walden Pond
b) There was a this British Girl from San Jose ( had a handle which had name like Rose or something )
c) Niloufer Bustani from Dallas. I see her once in a while but very sparingly .
The others even I have forgotten completely.
The only leadership/core that I see is Pappu and no one else . If you have a country where the prime minister shows his face only once in 4 years , how are the people supposed to believe in that movement ? Please don't reply with a message saying what have I done or why can't I contribute money ? I have done that I am looking for leadership to show us the way and motivate us . All campaigns don't need money donations( Letters , calls , faxes etc ) . We could start with that and then drum up support and momentum and then the money will start flowing in automatically . There has to be a synchronized campaign organized by the leadership and all I see is everybody putting their eggs in the basket called spillover.
Precisely,
they ask me for monthly contributions and I ask them to hold something big, a rally or something first, as I was not July2007 filer. That's why I am stopping to come here now. To ask for contributions, IV must hold something big,
The standard response that I see to any question is "have you donated money ? " . "Don't ask for anything till you have donated. " this is followed by some some red dots which normally works to silence the questions. People will be willing to donate when they believe in the movement . I remember we collected $ 30,000 in 1 month before the rally there was huge thread with all the donations . People were charged up and the money came up automatically . I am willing to donate but to be brutally honest I do not see the same level of motivation as was there in 2006 / 2007 days .Please use this as a wakeup call and not as reason to vent your frustration on me .
There are many senior members who I do not even see any more . Members joining in late 2007 or early 2008 will not know any of these guys .
Aman Kapoor . He is the founder of IV . I have not seen his messages since the past 3 years almost . Where is he ? Is it too much for him to send a greeting in New years eve motivating the members ? It takes just 2 minutes .
Mark Bartosik :- He was supposed to the spokesperson for IV .The guy with the MasterCard sign for immigration . I have not seen him for quite some time now
Where are the other senior leaders like
a) Walden Pond
b) There was a this British Girl from San Jose ( had a handle which had name like Rose or something )
c) Niloufer Bustani from Dallas. I see her once in a while but very sparingly .
The others even I have forgotten completely.
The only leadership/core that I see is Pappu and no one else . If you have a country where the prime minister shows his face only once in 4 years , how are the people supposed to believe in that movement ? Please don't reply with a message saying what have I done or why can't I contribute money ? I have done that I am looking for leadership to show us the way and motivate us . All campaigns don't need money donations( Letters , calls , faxes etc ) . We could start with that and then drum up support and momentum and then the money will start flowing in automatically . There has to be a synchronized campaign organized by the leadership and all I see is everybody putting their eggs in the basket called spillover.
Precisely,
they ask me for monthly contributions and I ask them to hold something big, a rally or something first, as I was not July2007 filer. That's why I am stopping to come here now. To ask for contributions, IV must hold something big,
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sunny1000
05-23 05:25 PM
if you all use little more IQ, you will realize that only with donation/money you will make a difference.
We all are here to make someone rich(employers, local businesses). So if you can make polititians rich, they will do something for you!
So stop calling... start donating to IV...
Let me know if my thought is wrong!
Please don't underestimate the power of these calls...The opposition does it every time to us and derail our efforts (just like they did it again to the Senate appropriation bill amendment) by just calling in large volumes. The orgs like numbersusa just call upon their members to call the lawmakers to oppose and their members plainly follow the instructions. Whereas 29000 strong org like ours debate it to death, let the moment pass by and then, have the audacity to complain that it did not work...
You can use that same IQ that you mentioned to figure it out yourself.
We all are here to make someone rich(employers, local businesses). So if you can make polititians rich, they will do something for you!
So stop calling... start donating to IV...
Let me know if my thought is wrong!
Please don't underestimate the power of these calls...The opposition does it every time to us and derail our efforts (just like they did it again to the Senate appropriation bill amendment) by just calling in large volumes. The orgs like numbersusa just call upon their members to call the lawmakers to oppose and their members plainly follow the instructions. Whereas 29000 strong org like ours debate it to death, let the moment pass by and then, have the audacity to complain that it did not work...
You can use that same IQ that you mentioned to figure it out yourself.
chetanjumani
03-14 02:15 PM
We have seen that even after the PD being current, there have been many people whose cases have not been approved. We saw last year in July many cases with later priority date and later receipt dates were approved and people with earlier PD and earlier Receipt dates still waiting,
Now with the 180 day rule for FBI name check, things could be expected to be little better, but we have to remember that since most of the cases are paper based, some one has to physically get to cases from a huge storage, sort it manually, distribute it manually and get it adjudicated.
So even if the visa number is current, just beacuse the number of applications are so high that we still cannot say for sure whose cases are going to be approved.
From www.immigration-information.com, it appears, the biggest factor in getting the GC visa number allocated to a case is, having a case ready to be adjudicated and in the hands of an immigration officer at a time, when both processing date and priority dates are current. It appears that even after the huge retrogression, there were not enough demand for AOS based approvals, so they had to PD current to allow CP based cases to use the visas and ensure they are not wasted. I like the fact that visa were at least not wasted, but I would have loved to see applicants who have been waiting for years to have a first opportunity to that visa, specially because they have done everything that any one could do.
I have been pro-fee increase by USCIS, only provided that they will use this money to expedite the processing, make things eletronic, make things more transparent, and to be honest, I feel the overall improvements are happening. Though I still see a lot of scope for futher improvements.
We have clearly seen that labor processing has been improved dramatically with PERM. Now waiting for years to get Labor is almost history. I hope that IV and all its members direct its efforts towards ensuring that we see the improvements in efficiency that we expected to happen with fee increases.
Lets unite together to work for a system which is fair and efficient for everyone. Lets contribute to IV administrative fixes and any other efforts which will ensure a higher efficiency and better utilization of visa numbers for AOS applications.
I would like to take this opportunity to ask all the smart and creative people here to put some effort and find out what real steps could be taken
Like
- Identify what was expected from the fees increases like
=>more information online about the case status.
=> Some tracking on how much backlog is reduced each month
=> come up with a trend of how much time it would take to complete the backlog.
=> Use the statistics, to keep the pressure on the agencies, to improve effencies.
- Verify that those steps (which needed fee increase) have actually taken place
- Maintain Statistics to show how successful Fee Increase was ....
- Ask for multi year EAD/AP
- Ensure, that once a higher fees is paid for EAD/AP, every one should be treated equally(as in all other renewals should be free)
Keep coming up with what all needs to be done. How we could track it. How could we maintain statistics which would put the needed pressure on agencies which need to improve....
Again I would encourage to come with ideas which will unite the legal immigrants togther and be fair to every one instead of ideas that will divide us and help one group at the cost of other.
We all deserve to get cases processed in a reasonable time. SO lets put ideas together....................
Now with the 180 day rule for FBI name check, things could be expected to be little better, but we have to remember that since most of the cases are paper based, some one has to physically get to cases from a huge storage, sort it manually, distribute it manually and get it adjudicated.
So even if the visa number is current, just beacuse the number of applications are so high that we still cannot say for sure whose cases are going to be approved.
From www.immigration-information.com, it appears, the biggest factor in getting the GC visa number allocated to a case is, having a case ready to be adjudicated and in the hands of an immigration officer at a time, when both processing date and priority dates are current. It appears that even after the huge retrogression, there were not enough demand for AOS based approvals, so they had to PD current to allow CP based cases to use the visas and ensure they are not wasted. I like the fact that visa were at least not wasted, but I would have loved to see applicants who have been waiting for years to have a first opportunity to that visa, specially because they have done everything that any one could do.
I have been pro-fee increase by USCIS, only provided that they will use this money to expedite the processing, make things eletronic, make things more transparent, and to be honest, I feel the overall improvements are happening. Though I still see a lot of scope for futher improvements.
We have clearly seen that labor processing has been improved dramatically with PERM. Now waiting for years to get Labor is almost history. I hope that IV and all its members direct its efforts towards ensuring that we see the improvements in efficiency that we expected to happen with fee increases.
Lets unite together to work for a system which is fair and efficient for everyone. Lets contribute to IV administrative fixes and any other efforts which will ensure a higher efficiency and better utilization of visa numbers for AOS applications.
I would like to take this opportunity to ask all the smart and creative people here to put some effort and find out what real steps could be taken
Like
- Identify what was expected from the fees increases like
=>more information online about the case status.
=> Some tracking on how much backlog is reduced each month
=> come up with a trend of how much time it would take to complete the backlog.
=> Use the statistics, to keep the pressure on the agencies, to improve effencies.
- Verify that those steps (which needed fee increase) have actually taken place
- Maintain Statistics to show how successful Fee Increase was ....
- Ask for multi year EAD/AP
- Ensure, that once a higher fees is paid for EAD/AP, every one should be treated equally(as in all other renewals should be free)
Keep coming up with what all needs to be done. How we could track it. How could we maintain statistics which would put the needed pressure on agencies which need to improve....
Again I would encourage to come with ideas which will unite the legal immigrants togther and be fair to every one instead of ideas that will divide us and help one group at the cost of other.
We all deserve to get cases processed in a reasonable time. SO lets put ideas together....................
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senk1s
06-12 06:16 PM
As per the current 'rules' EB1, EB2, EB3 are given EQUAL preference .... countrywise
My guess is that EB3 has more people in line - for the same reason that there are more people with Bachelors than those with PhDs.
If only USCIS/DHS give an accurate(!) number of apps in each category ... then we can make some informed decision instead of hoping for something like Jul 07.
Depending on what line we are in - we want that to move not slower (than others). And one of the fundamental concepts in queueing theory is that " as the system gets congested, servicing delay increases"
Like i read in friedman's book ... paraphrased - "If someone lost a job - the um-employment rate is not 5% or 10% - it is 100%"
My guess is that EB3 has more people in line - for the same reason that there are more people with Bachelors than those with PhDs.
If only USCIS/DHS give an accurate(!) number of apps in each category ... then we can make some informed decision instead of hoping for something like Jul 07.
Depending on what line we are in - we want that to move not slower (than others). And one of the fundamental concepts in queueing theory is that " as the system gets congested, servicing delay increases"
Like i read in friedman's book ... paraphrased - "If someone lost a job - the um-employment rate is not 5% or 10% - it is 100%"
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royalk2c2
01-31 06:26 PM
Also if you have multiple browsers (IE, Firefox), you can vote from each of them once :D
go_gc_way
02-06 02:31 PM
Aristotle ... I think you are new to the Forum.
It is widely known fact that Members may be even reluctant to answer the same question again and again ... but unless a legislation is passed , PD will not move.
Fact is many of us are in a bad state for the options we have selected in our lives.
There is an organization like IV which is trying to help all of us. Infact IV members consist of people whose priority dates have been retrogressed for a long long time.
Also past 2 years (yes 2 years !!), some bills have been passed in only in Senate and hence fully did not become a law.
Hopefully something will happen and give us relief. My advise , don't forget to help IV where you can.
It is widely known fact that Members may be even reluctant to answer the same question again and again ... but unless a legislation is passed , PD will not move.
Fact is many of us are in a bad state for the options we have selected in our lives.
There is an organization like IV which is trying to help all of us. Infact IV members consist of people whose priority dates have been retrogressed for a long long time.
Also past 2 years (yes 2 years !!), some bills have been passed in only in Senate and hence fully did not become a law.
Hopefully something will happen and give us relief. My advise , don't forget to help IV where you can.
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IamWithImmiVoice
01-10 03:18 PM
Reading the thread it seems like there are a few steps being dicussed here:
1. Hunger Strike
2. Go the court way for failure of visa spillovers
3. Letters, Faxes etc etc.
4.. I am missing something that someone can add.
I am wondering if hunger strike will work. First of all hunger strike is useless unless its heavily publicized. For publicity we will need to be at Washington (maybe not )and strike for atleast a week before we get any publicity. That means risking physical health as well as professional life. Moreover we will need a large number of people to make news. It has to be a well publicized and a successful strike. It will surely have more impact than the rally.
I suggest writing one letter everyday to white house and to USCIS. If thousands of us write two letters a day everyday to President and USCIS it wont cost us much and it will be a continuous effort till we come out with a more substantial effort like a rally or hunger strike.
Feel free to blast my ideas and suggest others.
Lets be all a part of the core team and not get an opportunity to say that the core team is not doing enough
1. Hunger Strike
2. Go the court way for failure of visa spillovers
3. Letters, Faxes etc etc.
4.. I am missing something that someone can add.
I am wondering if hunger strike will work. First of all hunger strike is useless unless its heavily publicized. For publicity we will need to be at Washington (maybe not )and strike for atleast a week before we get any publicity. That means risking physical health as well as professional life. Moreover we will need a large number of people to make news. It has to be a well publicized and a successful strike. It will surely have more impact than the rally.
I suggest writing one letter everyday to white house and to USCIS. If thousands of us write two letters a day everyday to President and USCIS it wont cost us much and it will be a continuous effort till we come out with a more substantial effort like a rally or hunger strike.
Feel free to blast my ideas and suggest others.
Lets be all a part of the core team and not get an opportunity to say that the core team is not doing enough
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sriharirag
07-17 10:31 PM
Can we also add a section that says that H1Bs also pay taxes...including medicare and SS?
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Vexir
06-04 10:11 PM
Nice, I like.. despite the fact that it represents a rival forum :P
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msekhargc
01-30 04:35 PM
voted now
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rustamehind
07-11 12:55 PM
Just wondering why USCIS is neither accepting nor rejecting the July 2nd application? How long can thy hold applications like this? Can they leverage this in their favour in the class action lawsuit? Is this procrastination deliberate , considering its legal implications?
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raj1998
04-21 02:36 PM
Sent you a PM. please check :p.
well, you are funny and good at intimidating people and invoking them in the way you want :D
lets use the energy in positive way
well, you are funny and good at intimidating people and invoking them in the way you want :D
lets use the energy in positive way
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KanME
07-19 04:36 PM
Great Idea..how can this be done without being a tax liability for Aman?
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sdrblr
09-14 11:20 PM
where is the poll at?
We were approved on 9/2.
Had opened an SR on 8/25 and had sent an email to TSC streamline on 9/1
We were approved on 9/2.
Had opened an SR on 8/25 and had sent an email to TSC streamline on 9/1
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jambapamba
07-10 10:11 PM
1. to keep a log
2. To report the number of cases worked upon
3. To keep track of the applicants as when its refiled, it should have yes for "Did you ever apply adjustment of status before". If its "No", its a lie and its rejected again.
why would they spend time in entering the data in the system if any way they going to reject it...
2. To report the number of cases worked upon
3. To keep track of the applicants as when its refiled, it should have yes for "Did you ever apply adjustment of status before". If its "No", its a lie and its rejected again.
why would they spend time in entering the data in the system if any way they going to reject it...
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qplearn
09-13 12:57 PM
I think SKIL bill is our only hope. Unlike CIR, it looks like this bill has been introduced in both the houses which is a good sign. This bill has more number of sponsers from the House than in the Senate. That's another good sign.
Senate Bill - S.2691
House Bill - HR5744
We all know this, but anyway I agree that this is our only hope.
I am willing to visit DC if I can help out in any way.
Looks like we can't expect only the core members to keep working.
qplearn
Senate Bill - S.2691
House Bill - HR5744
We all know this, but anyway I agree that this is our only hope.
I am willing to visit DC if I can help out in any way.
Looks like we can't expect only the core members to keep working.
qplearn
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StuckInTheMuck
04-28 07:21 AM
is 2, 3, 4, 5 important for citizenship?
As I said in the preface of the list, the bigger objective here is to take certain steps, including proper documentation (e.g. points 2, 3, 4 and 5), in order to maintain PR status. Besides, you never know what documents you would be asked to produce, given that the citizenship process involves more extensive background checks than the GC process. Also, having a log of exit/entry details (point #5) should help quickly fill out Part 7 of the citizenship form (http://www.uscis.gov/files/form/N-400.pdf).
Added to Wiki here After GC Dos and Donts (http://immigrationvoice.org/wiki/index.php/US_Life_After_GC)
Thanks a bunch, coopheal. As I keep updating the list (based on feedbacks from subsequent posts), is there an easy way to update the Wiki page too?
Never mind, I managed to update it myself.
As I said in the preface of the list, the bigger objective here is to take certain steps, including proper documentation (e.g. points 2, 3, 4 and 5), in order to maintain PR status. Besides, you never know what documents you would be asked to produce, given that the citizenship process involves more extensive background checks than the GC process. Also, having a log of exit/entry details (point #5) should help quickly fill out Part 7 of the citizenship form (http://www.uscis.gov/files/form/N-400.pdf).
Added to Wiki here After GC Dos and Donts (http://immigrationvoice.org/wiki/index.php/US_Life_After_GC)
Thanks a bunch, coopheal. As I keep updating the list (based on feedbacks from subsequent posts), is there an easy way to update the Wiki page too?
Never mind, I managed to update it myself.
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vikki76
11-04 02:25 PM
leoindiano: if they are saying that numbers are consolidated- then they must be..now just for endless wait..
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anzerraja
07-19 06:21 PM
Thanks Husker !
We are getting started out as a new thread towards this administrative costs.
As a couple of members mentioned that the core will not take any money from the funds members contributed, and its is really unfortunate that Aman + all the core team have to spend a lot of money out of their pocket. I am not a CPA but have seen that a lot of NOP do set aside administrative funds. That how the organization would work. The good ones will have only 10% of funds towards administrative cost. The BEST ONE LIKE IV has NONE (No money for administrative cost!!!). I am sure the core will not want to dive into the funds people are giving BUT can members send money seperately to set up an administrative fund.
I like khodalmd idea, I know not everyone is going to chip in, but if we have atleat 1000 people we can all send $100, so that atleast the core team dont take on the financial burden of the entire community. People sent flowers, a lot of people sent flowers...I am sure atleat 1000 appreciative members can shell out $100 for IV.
I am game for the $100 suggested by anzerraja (I think)
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We are getting started out as a new thread towards this administrative costs.
As a couple of members mentioned that the core will not take any money from the funds members contributed, and its is really unfortunate that Aman + all the core team have to spend a lot of money out of their pocket. I am not a CPA but have seen that a lot of NOP do set aside administrative funds. That how the organization would work. The good ones will have only 10% of funds towards administrative cost. The BEST ONE LIKE IV has NONE (No money for administrative cost!!!). I am sure the core will not want to dive into the funds people are giving BUT can members send money seperately to set up an administrative fund.
I like khodalmd idea, I know not everyone is going to chip in, but if we have atleat 1000 people we can all send $100, so that atleast the core team dont take on the financial burden of the entire community. People sent flowers, a lot of people sent flowers...I am sure atleat 1000 appreciative members can shell out $100 for IV.
I am game for the $100 suggested by anzerraja (I think)
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laborchic
06-05 09:18 PM
Come on folks. This is the time to be active.
Dont give up now....lets try and help ourselves...
Dont give up now....lets try and help ourselves...
pitha
01-29 05:10 PM
I am no expert on this but if labor substitution is eliminated it will remove anywhere from 30 to 50% of labor cleared from BEC. I know a lot of people who have applied for labor 2 to 3 times, they applied for a new labor every time they went to a new employer. It is these extra labor certifications that are being sold