qasleuth
05-14 12:21 PM
and one more point, we are never going to get treated with respect and equality, just get used to it. every American knows we left our country to come to his. he is always gonna look down upon us. Immigrants are never treated with love, respect and dignity, no matter which country they go to. Case in point, Bangladeshi and Nepali migrant workers in India. We treat them like dirt back home, so discrimination against immigrants is part of immigration process. hopefully our ABCD offspring's will face less of it
Excuse me ?? Why did you leave your country and come here ? Your motivations maybe totally different than mine, so don't assume they are the same. For the reason I came over here, why would any 'American' treat me like dirt ? Many countries in Asia are not lands of the immigrant like USA. So your anology of treating migrant workers like 'dirt' to folks over here the same way is totally wrong. Please for heaven sake do some reading before you open your mouth again...you are talking nonsense man....people who are encouraging you are perhaps doing it to see you make a bigger fool of yourself...get off the forums do some reading.
Excuse me ?? Why did you leave your country and come here ? Your motivations maybe totally different than mine, so don't assume they are the same. For the reason I came over here, why would any 'American' treat me like dirt ? Many countries in Asia are not lands of the immigrant like USA. So your anology of treating migrant workers like 'dirt' to folks over here the same way is totally wrong. Please for heaven sake do some reading before you open your mouth again...you are talking nonsense man....people who are encouraging you are perhaps doing it to see you make a bigger fool of yourself...get off the forums do some reading.
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11-03 11:41 PM
Done
modvik
04-14 02:39 AM
If we are riding our hopes on this. Making a contribution is the least we can do. Sent my $200.
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BECsufferer
10-07 12:30 PM
I partially disagree with your analysis on markets in India. Icici and SBI are facing the problem of defaulters these days. Banks there have mimicked the model in United States and there are amny loans that had less than 10% downpayment.
I can tell you in Hyderabad that many flats in and around madhapur are upwards of 45 lakhs.
These prices will fall given the number of flats still unsold. There are amny unsold houses worth above 1 Cr and they are gonna come down.
--sri
Sri;
As i said in my note, my comments are strictly directed towards markets in North India such as Greater Mohali or Ludhiana. Their had been some instances of mega-builders pulling out of mega-commercial projects such as Mohali inter-State Bus Terminal. But on same note, recent auction of commercial land by GMADA saw prices not fore-seen by general public. As rarely does anyone in north India believes on financial or non-financial promisary notes, as we do here in USA. So for individual buyers, it all boils down to cash transaction.
My suggestion, as someone noted their is 25% appreciation of USD, is to invest in india preferbly in partnership with someone you know and can trust.
I can tell you in Hyderabad that many flats in and around madhapur are upwards of 45 lakhs.
These prices will fall given the number of flats still unsold. There are amny unsold houses worth above 1 Cr and they are gonna come down.
--sri
Sri;
As i said in my note, my comments are strictly directed towards markets in North India such as Greater Mohali or Ludhiana. Their had been some instances of mega-builders pulling out of mega-commercial projects such as Mohali inter-State Bus Terminal. But on same note, recent auction of commercial land by GMADA saw prices not fore-seen by general public. As rarely does anyone in north India believes on financial or non-financial promisary notes, as we do here in USA. So for individual buyers, it all boils down to cash transaction.
My suggestion, as someone noted their is 25% appreciation of USD, is to invest in india preferbly in partnership with someone you know and can trust.
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polapragada
04-26 06:34 PM
I like majority of others who came here on H1 with genunine intent of settling down should work toward common goal of easier GC processing and not support outsourcing idiots esp L1s who is nothing but shipping jobs overseas and making a field (eg IT) minimum wage pay. Just look around how much TCS pay .
COmmon goal of us is easier and humane green card processing and to work towards the goal to stop blatant abuses in the form of L1 (and some H1 )
Watch your language.. My friend.. don't throw your rotten ideas as facts
TCS for deputed employees
1. 60.5 K -70 K
2. Full medical insurance (whole family) from Cigna...
3. 401K 4%
4. All travel and relation expenses
5. So many...
--> better than most desi employers
If you think that there is abuse in L1 so in H1
Becasue of so people like you anti-I could able to successfully devide us.
If you think that out sourcing and sending jobs to India is utterly wrong.. so giving jobs to foreigners in US.
You and me are here because of globalization, if we want to get PROTECTed from MORE globalization.. for sure every body will suffer, Indians (in India),L1,H1, You, me, Even Citizens.
And if you are an Indian and going to loose job in USA because of the ptotectionizam you will end begging a job from the same Indian outsourcing companies. Watch out..
COmmon goal of us is easier and humane green card processing and to work towards the goal to stop blatant abuses in the form of L1 (and some H1 )
Watch your language.. My friend.. don't throw your rotten ideas as facts
TCS for deputed employees
1. 60.5 K -70 K
2. Full medical insurance (whole family) from Cigna...
3. 401K 4%
4. All travel and relation expenses
5. So many...
--> better than most desi employers
If you think that there is abuse in L1 so in H1
Becasue of so people like you anti-I could able to successfully devide us.
If you think that out sourcing and sending jobs to India is utterly wrong.. so giving jobs to foreigners in US.
You and me are here because of globalization, if we want to get PROTECTed from MORE globalization.. for sure every body will suffer, Indians (in India),L1,H1, You, me, Even Citizens.
And if you are an Indian and going to loose job in USA because of the ptotectionizam you will end begging a job from the same Indian outsourcing companies. Watch out..
Leo07
12-03 11:51 AM
I can understand where you are coming from...with only few people participating in the core efforts and many people commenting on the efforts online. I can agree to that part.
However, we must not under play the fact that an organizations of need-based and issue based type ALWAYS has floating members.
For example....if your GC gets approved tomorrow...I'll bet that you'll not care less about the forum.
Best!
IMO, this is the biggest problem plaguing IV - perception of IV as just another online forum (community) or a "chat room" as a newspaper reporter put it ! (http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071123/NEWS07/711230422/1009) (under the heading "Taking Action").
This point IV = chat room has come to the fore, several times in discussions. A lot of persons have refused to join IV efforts with the ruse "IV is just an online forum where members discuss mundane matters". Whether someone admits it or not, IV has a serious image problem !. It needs to be corrected soon (by more than making another announcement type "We are not a forum" post !)
Strength of an(y) organization comes from contributing, active members. And not from MINOWs (Members-In-Name-Only Wusses)
However, we must not under play the fact that an organizations of need-based and issue based type ALWAYS has floating members.
For example....if your GC gets approved tomorrow...I'll bet that you'll not care less about the forum.
Best!
IMO, this is the biggest problem plaguing IV - perception of IV as just another online forum (community) or a "chat room" as a newspaper reporter put it ! (http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071123/NEWS07/711230422/1009) (under the heading "Taking Action").
This point IV = chat room has come to the fore, several times in discussions. A lot of persons have refused to join IV efforts with the ruse "IV is just an online forum where members discuss mundane matters". Whether someone admits it or not, IV has a serious image problem !. It needs to be corrected soon (by more than making another announcement type "We are not a forum" post !)
Strength of an(y) organization comes from contributing, active members. And not from MINOWs (Members-In-Name-Only Wusses)
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willwin
06-10 11:49 AM
Call.. nothing to loose to call..
I just did. Called all the 6 offices.
I just did. Called all the 6 offices.
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07-16 09:17 PM
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05-30 11:46 PM
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11-19 12:41 PM
In War on the Middle Class (http://www.amazon.com/War-Middle-Class-Government-Business/dp/0670037923) Lou Dobbs says H1B workers don't pay taxes.
However, H-1B workers are legally required to pay the same taxes as any other US resident, including Social Security and Medicare. Some H-1B workers are not eligible to receive any Social Security or Medicare benefits unless they are able to adjust status to that of permanent resident. However, if their country of citizenship has a tax agreement with the United States, they are able to collect the Social Security they've earned even if they don't gain permanent residency.
In some cases, H-1B workers pay higher taxes than a US citizen because they are not entitled to certain deductions (eg. head of household deduction amongst many others).
Indian techie slams CNN Lou Dobbs! (http://www.indiadaily.com/editorial/10-28a-04.asp) By N. Sivakumar, October 28, 2004
In a book titled "Dude, did I steal your job? Debugging Indian Computer programmers", the author, an Indian software engineer, has slammed Lou Dobbs of CNN for calling the foreign high-tech workers as non-tax payers, and humiliating the enormous contributions of foreign high-tech workforce to the American economy.
"Foreign high-tech workers who come here on H-1B / L1 visas pay every tax that U.S. citizens do, including Social Security and Medicare. But if they return to their homeland, then they will not get any benefits from these programs. The recent recession cost the United States more than half a million foreign high-tech workers who had to return home after paying all these taxes. In fact, Americans owe them money"
The author writes.
"The ignorance to mention the stupendous contributions of immigrant high-tech workers was the primary cause for the anti-Indian atmosphere which is seen among computer professionals lately. Unfortunately, neither the media nor the public understand the foreign high-tech workforce. The net result: those who supported the foreign high-tech worker programs have taken a back seat to play safe, and Indians and others who came here on visas, and worked their butts off to make this country prosper are named 'slaves', 'dummies', and 'enemies'. writes the author, N.Sivakumar.
The book also claims that bringing in foreign high-tech workforce at the right time was the primary reason for America's stupendous high-tech success, and gives statistics and evidence to prove that hadn't America acted quickly, the Europeans would have taken over the software dominance.
The book also outlines the life, struggle and achievements of Indian programmers in America with entertaining facts, and is a prime discussion topic in many anti-outsourcing and immigration websites lately.
However, H-1B workers are legally required to pay the same taxes as any other US resident, including Social Security and Medicare. Some H-1B workers are not eligible to receive any Social Security or Medicare benefits unless they are able to adjust status to that of permanent resident. However, if their country of citizenship has a tax agreement with the United States, they are able to collect the Social Security they've earned even if they don't gain permanent residency.
In some cases, H-1B workers pay higher taxes than a US citizen because they are not entitled to certain deductions (eg. head of household deduction amongst many others).
Indian techie slams CNN Lou Dobbs! (http://www.indiadaily.com/editorial/10-28a-04.asp) By N. Sivakumar, October 28, 2004
In a book titled "Dude, did I steal your job? Debugging Indian Computer programmers", the author, an Indian software engineer, has slammed Lou Dobbs of CNN for calling the foreign high-tech workers as non-tax payers, and humiliating the enormous contributions of foreign high-tech workforce to the American economy.
"Foreign high-tech workers who come here on H-1B / L1 visas pay every tax that U.S. citizens do, including Social Security and Medicare. But if they return to their homeland, then they will not get any benefits from these programs. The recent recession cost the United States more than half a million foreign high-tech workers who had to return home after paying all these taxes. In fact, Americans owe them money"
The author writes.
"The ignorance to mention the stupendous contributions of immigrant high-tech workers was the primary cause for the anti-Indian atmosphere which is seen among computer professionals lately. Unfortunately, neither the media nor the public understand the foreign high-tech workforce. The net result: those who supported the foreign high-tech worker programs have taken a back seat to play safe, and Indians and others who came here on visas, and worked their butts off to make this country prosper are named 'slaves', 'dummies', and 'enemies'. writes the author, N.Sivakumar.
The book also claims that bringing in foreign high-tech workforce at the right time was the primary reason for America's stupendous high-tech success, and gives statistics and evidence to prove that hadn't America acted quickly, the Europeans would have taken over the software dominance.
The book also outlines the life, struggle and achievements of Indian programmers in America with entertaining facts, and is a prime discussion topic in many anti-outsourcing and immigration websites lately.
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god_bless_you
03-13 01:22 PM
Folks,
This my copyright and very much pertain to our situation:
*********************
I left my world in search of prosperity
The prosperity is taking an eternity
My struggle is long and daunting
Making it more and more frustrating
Life at times seems uncontrollable
Flowing with the time unstoppable
Graying hairs testify for the feeling
Fat belly making me further unappealing
Sometimes I think of going back
Try to gather the courage that I lack
But the world I left is not the same any more.
And the world I am in, has lost its lure.
I am on the crossroad of my life
One is forward, one is left and other is right.
I don�t like the choices shown
May be I would have to create a world of my own
***************
Thanks
Good one, Thats what we are now .:)
This my copyright and very much pertain to our situation:
*********************
I left my world in search of prosperity
The prosperity is taking an eternity
My struggle is long and daunting
Making it more and more frustrating
Life at times seems uncontrollable
Flowing with the time unstoppable
Graying hairs testify for the feeling
Fat belly making me further unappealing
Sometimes I think of going back
Try to gather the courage that I lack
But the world I left is not the same any more.
And the world I am in, has lost its lure.
I am on the crossroad of my life
One is forward, one is left and other is right.
I don�t like the choices shown
May be I would have to create a world of my own
***************
Thanks
Good one, Thats what we are now .:)
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chanduv23
12-03 11:19 AM
Leo ...you are right, paid membership will drive away ...members who are selfish and got used to free food around ..Let them leave IV ...Paid member ship will stop enemies of immigration to think before posting or registering ..
Lets do it .. make it Paid membership ..This a noble cause ..IV is a non profit organization ..We need dollars to proceed ..
We have to target democrats more aggressively !!
You are right. Many organizations do this. Once they have reached a base, they stop free membership. But from what I understand, a lot of people still don't know about IV and we must make more attempts to spread the word. Many people just don't know or understand the concept of IV. When we want them to join, the get suspecious and cautious and stay away. The idea here is to reach more and more people. IV is better organized now than what it was before and as people start to realise, they will come forward. Remember, IV is a concept and a platform andwill always stay. people may come and go - there will always be people motivated at different levels.
Lets do it .. make it Paid membership ..This a noble cause ..IV is a non profit organization ..We need dollars to proceed ..
We have to target democrats more aggressively !!
You are right. Many organizations do this. Once they have reached a base, they stop free membership. But from what I understand, a lot of people still don't know about IV and we must make more attempts to spread the word. Many people just don't know or understand the concept of IV. When we want them to join, the get suspecious and cautious and stay away. The idea here is to reach more and more people. IV is better organized now than what it was before and as people start to realise, they will come forward. Remember, IV is a concept and a platform andwill always stay. people may come and go - there will always be people motivated at different levels.
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anzerraja
07-20 09:33 AM
There is a funding drive in this other thread towards reimbursing the administrative costs of IV.
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/sh...ad.php?t=10708
Could you please pledge an amount ?
it need not just a few very good core team members,
what is needed is a weight of slightly good, active and contributing, masses.
It is bad to rely on a few doing a lot, more need to do just a little more.
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/sh...ad.php?t=10708
Could you please pledge an amount ?
it need not just a few very good core team members,
what is needed is a weight of slightly good, active and contributing, masses.
It is bad to rely on a few doing a lot, more need to do just a little more.
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07-12 04:17 PM
I am not sure what you mean by dont worry. For me personally paying $4000 out of pocket under my current circumstances is a lot. I agree,the PD may not become current soon unless something weird happens. But I am pointing out the fact that it is not a simple decision for most especially where companies or families with resource limitations are involved.
I really dont see how people are treating this 'holding' as a sign of good things to come. It may be, but the probability is very small. This move is more to fortify their moves by screwing us more.
I really dont see how people are treating this 'holding' as a sign of good things to come. It may be, but the probability is very small. This move is more to fortify their moves by screwing us more.
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Honda
05-04 12:18 PM
Hi Friends,
I checked my status and havent received any Soft LUD, but I received a FP notice couple of days back. I am not sure what this is for..My PD is Dec 2006 (EB3) and I received EAD/AP/I140 approved. I applied concurrently during the july fiasco and already done with FP on 2007 itself.
Now i am surprised why I need to , go for FP again. I am still in H1 and my EAD is expired and havent renewed.
Can anyone shed some light in to this FP notice ???
Cheers
John
Your 485 application belongs to which service center?
I checked my status and havent received any Soft LUD, but I received a FP notice couple of days back. I am not sure what this is for..My PD is Dec 2006 (EB3) and I received EAD/AP/I140 approved. I applied concurrently during the july fiasco and already done with FP on 2007 itself.
Now i am surprised why I need to , go for FP again. I am still in H1 and my EAD is expired and havent renewed.
Can anyone shed some light in to this FP notice ???
Cheers
John
Your 485 application belongs to which service center?
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greenguru
05-21 07:22 PM
India Network Foundation
3956 Town Center Blvd #340
Orlando, FL 32837
Fax: 800-837-6384
Web: http://www.indianetwork.org
Advantages :
1.working with AIG, insurance carrier for many years on offering pre-existing conditions coverage
Hope this helps, call them out as well.
3956 Town Center Blvd #340
Orlando, FL 32837
Fax: 800-837-6384
Web: http://www.indianetwork.org
Advantages :
1.working with AIG, insurance carrier for many years on offering pre-existing conditions coverage
Hope this helps, call them out as well.
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gcgreen
08-13 07:39 PM
your title is misleading. where is the "plight" that you refer to?
Also, EB2 applies to jobs that require a Masters degree as well, not just PhD.
An MS can be completed in as little as 9 months (YES, 9 months, if you apply for MS in a school that follows quarter system and complete coursework but no thesis) for majors like Electrical and Computer Engineering. So what is the plight for folks who completed MS in say 9 months to 2 yrs, and how is it different from the plight of EB3 folks?
Yes, that is right, I said �plight of EB2-India�.
I am a passive observer of these forums. But some of the ridiculous notions floating around here have motivated me to vent. First and foremost, the law as written is highly favorable to people in EB3 categories, even from India. Here is how...
Take my example (and there are thousands like myself)....came to the US 8 years ago, spent 5 years working day and night to earn a PhD on a low (barely sustainable) stipend, got FIRST job saw decent money for the first time 6 years after I came.
Now, compare this to a person working an EB3-job for the last 8 years. Not only does this person do a real job that hopefully provides a respectable income but this person also has the option of moving to EB2 after 5 years of experience. So, at the end of the day in 2008; this person comes out ahead of me in terms of money, in terms of priority date (if ported) and most likely in terms of GC.
There are complaints all over the forum which have the stink of pretentiousness such as �oh..i am a poor EB3 waiting for n number of years� etc etc. What you guys seem to forget is that YOU are NOT an EB3, it is your JOB that is EB3. You have all the opportunities that were/are available to a person who sweated it out in the university system here to gain more qualifications and get an EB2 job. You CHOSE not to. The general discussion seems to center around cribbing about the US immigration system (Immigration by the way is a privilege defined by laws, not a birthright) and then blaming the EB2 crowd when they finally see the system implement the law as intended in the first place (horizontal spillover rules).
All these posts that refer to �my career is over because my gc is delayed� are nothing but a pathetic excuse. Law of supply and demand....if you have a skillset that is valuable, you will be fine with or without GC anywhere in the world. It takes a bunch of documents to remain here legally, all you need is a passport to go back if the system here seems so bad.
For all the attacks that are bound to happen, here is the fodder.....this is probably my first and last post, I haven�t contributed a dime to IV, will work here as long as I like it and if not, India is a great country and provides enough opportunities for any skillset !!
Also, EB2 applies to jobs that require a Masters degree as well, not just PhD.
An MS can be completed in as little as 9 months (YES, 9 months, if you apply for MS in a school that follows quarter system and complete coursework but no thesis) for majors like Electrical and Computer Engineering. So what is the plight for folks who completed MS in say 9 months to 2 yrs, and how is it different from the plight of EB3 folks?
Yes, that is right, I said �plight of EB2-India�.
I am a passive observer of these forums. But some of the ridiculous notions floating around here have motivated me to vent. First and foremost, the law as written is highly favorable to people in EB3 categories, even from India. Here is how...
Take my example (and there are thousands like myself)....came to the US 8 years ago, spent 5 years working day and night to earn a PhD on a low (barely sustainable) stipend, got FIRST job saw decent money for the first time 6 years after I came.
Now, compare this to a person working an EB3-job for the last 8 years. Not only does this person do a real job that hopefully provides a respectable income but this person also has the option of moving to EB2 after 5 years of experience. So, at the end of the day in 2008; this person comes out ahead of me in terms of money, in terms of priority date (if ported) and most likely in terms of GC.
There are complaints all over the forum which have the stink of pretentiousness such as �oh..i am a poor EB3 waiting for n number of years� etc etc. What you guys seem to forget is that YOU are NOT an EB3, it is your JOB that is EB3. You have all the opportunities that were/are available to a person who sweated it out in the university system here to gain more qualifications and get an EB2 job. You CHOSE not to. The general discussion seems to center around cribbing about the US immigration system (Immigration by the way is a privilege defined by laws, not a birthright) and then blaming the EB2 crowd when they finally see the system implement the law as intended in the first place (horizontal spillover rules).
All these posts that refer to �my career is over because my gc is delayed� are nothing but a pathetic excuse. Law of supply and demand....if you have a skillset that is valuable, you will be fine with or without GC anywhere in the world. It takes a bunch of documents to remain here legally, all you need is a passport to go back if the system here seems so bad.
For all the attacks that are bound to happen, here is the fodder.....this is probably my first and last post, I haven�t contributed a dime to IV, will work here as long as I like it and if not, India is a great country and provides enough opportunities for any skillset !!
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Bpositive
02-02 10:23 AM
Following is my case....please help me make a decision on whether to see this through or not submit passport and just travel back on AP...
Chennai consulate H1. (transfer from F1-OPT-H1).
January 2nd - date of visa interview. Asked for additional info - 221g because I have a Phd in biology
January 6th - submitted additional information. research. publications etc.
February 1st (friday afternoon)- status updated to 'send passport' on chennai consulate website.
My concerns are -
1. How long does it take VFS to return passport, if I submit passport on Monday, February 4th?
2. Would I still have to go through the PIMS verification or should I assume the consulate has already done this because they have asked me to submit passport?
Please help if you can. I have already rescheduled my tickets twice...
Chennai consulate H1. (transfer from F1-OPT-H1).
January 2nd - date of visa interview. Asked for additional info - 221g because I have a Phd in biology
January 6th - submitted additional information. research. publications etc.
February 1st (friday afternoon)- status updated to 'send passport' on chennai consulate website.
My concerns are -
1. How long does it take VFS to return passport, if I submit passport on Monday, February 4th?
2. Would I still have to go through the PIMS verification or should I assume the consulate has already done this because they have asked me to submit passport?
Please help if you can. I have already rescheduled my tickets twice...
sledge_hammer
01-28 04:18 PM
I didn't find where in the PDF AILA is saying the definition is illegal!
They provide one example a court ruling where the EE definition was established in the case of an insurance agent. But such an issue has already been address by the EE memo by USCIS (Temporary/Occasional Off-Site Employment).
Is it your own interpretation that the EE definition in the memo is illegal or did you read it somewhere in AILA's response?
Re-read AILA memo once again. You haven't noticed the main point yet. Precedence is not their main point. Precedent just provides an additional support. E-E is the most controversial item in the USCIS memo which also is illegal.
They provide one example a court ruling where the EE definition was established in the case of an insurance agent. But such an issue has already been address by the EE memo by USCIS (Temporary/Occasional Off-Site Employment).
Is it your own interpretation that the EE definition in the memo is illegal or did you read it somewhere in AILA's response?
Re-read AILA memo once again. You haven't noticed the main point yet. Precedence is not their main point. Precedent just provides an additional support. E-E is the most controversial item in the USCIS memo which also is illegal.
nshantha
07-19 09:48 AM
Mine also received by R. WILLIAMS on July 2nd at 7:55 AM.