a1b2c3
04-29 08:59 PM
Thanks for this info, but I am a million miles away from ever thinking about these.
Just out of curiosity, why "shred" photocopies, except maybe for better document management and not drowning in paper? :D
Is there some ramification towards citizenship?
btw, Congrats on GC. :cool:
LT
what do you mean by ramification? you mean advantages? if yes, there are several. that you can be assured of. you can sponsor your parents as fast as you can sponsor your wife. there are many others.
Just out of curiosity, why "shred" photocopies, except maybe for better document management and not drowning in paper? :D
Is there some ramification towards citizenship?
btw, Congrats on GC. :cool:
LT
what do you mean by ramification? you mean advantages? if yes, there are several. that you can be assured of. you can sponsor your parents as fast as you can sponsor your wife. there are many others.
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kubmilegaGC
09-17 09:28 PM
Thanks kubmilegaGC!
I will call the senators immigration liaison tomorrow. Hopefully she will not tell me that they cannot do anything besides what they have done because that is what they told me in September last year when I got a standard response last year.
Unfortunately nobody understands the pain and agony we are going through. For them, its just another day at the office, they couldnt care less. Nevertheless, I am going to try tomorrow.....hey, cant give up that easy.
I will call CS again tomorrow, I dont mind being yelled at and I am gonna tell her this time that I have not opened a SR. Atleast, she will then transfer my call to a IO.
Let's see what tomorrow has in store for me!!
do you have SR opened for your wife?
I will call the senators immigration liaison tomorrow. Hopefully she will not tell me that they cannot do anything besides what they have done because that is what they told me in September last year when I got a standard response last year.
Unfortunately nobody understands the pain and agony we are going through. For them, its just another day at the office, they couldnt care less. Nevertheless, I am going to try tomorrow.....hey, cant give up that easy.
I will call CS again tomorrow, I dont mind being yelled at and I am gonna tell her this time that I have not opened a SR. Atleast, she will then transfer my call to a IO.
Let's see what tomorrow has in store for me!!
do you have SR opened for your wife?
sam_hoosier
02-09 03:04 PM
I have an MS degree, so IF the SKIL is passed, my PD will become current. However, I guess the earliest time for SKIL to be passed is Oct, if it is ever passed.
Does the SKIL bill apply only to MS, or MBA too ?
Does the SKIL bill apply only to MS, or MBA too ?
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va_labor2002
07-26 04:21 PM
In the US for 11 years now. - 7th year H1B
Thanks for starting this topic!!! This could be an emotional thread for a lot of us who are still waiting for this rediculously long process of GC!!!!
More frustrating when:
Waited for 3++ yrs for the labor cert (PD Sept 2002)
Just submitted I140 (6/2006) but have to endure the fear that my EB2 will be kicked to EB3, which means RETROGRESSION!
With H4, wife cannot work. Going to school is too expensive..i can't afford it with my small salary
Stucked with current company...being under appreciated and under utilized by the current employer...not a place for me to build my CAREER!!!
Have potential contract jobs/independent consultant positions available (recruiters contacted me) which pay 50% than what i am making now...but can't accept those offers bcos of GC!!!!
So so tempted to return home for good (sick and tired of the WAIT), but Everyone was saying "u had waited for years now, so why not wait for another year or so to get it..don't waste the golden opportunity" But...but...is it really going to be just another YEAR? :rolleyes:
Sigh...sorry for venting...but i am really upset!
Going back to Career options...
**yeah, i would like to get a PMP cert, but it is pretty EXPENSIVE. But maybe some of us who done that can advice me.
**About buying houses....really clueless about it...really scare i will get ripped off by people..any advice?
** Yes..i want to know more about E-Visa and making $$ via online business!
Thanks all....
Sky
Look at my case.
1) EB3 PD March 2002. After more than 4 years I got my Labor.
2) Filed for I-140 . Cannot file 485 now.
3) H1B 9th year going on.
One good thing I did ,I bought a house in Dec 2002.Now If I sell the same house,I will get minimum 100K profit. I will get good appreciation now.I recommend you guys to buy a house now. It is the best time to buy a house,because it is "Buyers market" now ! You can make some money if you sell it later...
Thanks for starting this topic!!! This could be an emotional thread for a lot of us who are still waiting for this rediculously long process of GC!!!!
More frustrating when:
Waited for 3++ yrs for the labor cert (PD Sept 2002)
Just submitted I140 (6/2006) but have to endure the fear that my EB2 will be kicked to EB3, which means RETROGRESSION!
With H4, wife cannot work. Going to school is too expensive..i can't afford it with my small salary
Stucked with current company...being under appreciated and under utilized by the current employer...not a place for me to build my CAREER!!!
Have potential contract jobs/independent consultant positions available (recruiters contacted me) which pay 50% than what i am making now...but can't accept those offers bcos of GC!!!!
So so tempted to return home for good (sick and tired of the WAIT), but Everyone was saying "u had waited for years now, so why not wait for another year or so to get it..don't waste the golden opportunity" But...but...is it really going to be just another YEAR? :rolleyes:
Sigh...sorry for venting...but i am really upset!
Going back to Career options...
**yeah, i would like to get a PMP cert, but it is pretty EXPENSIVE. But maybe some of us who done that can advice me.
**About buying houses....really clueless about it...really scare i will get ripped off by people..any advice?
** Yes..i want to know more about E-Visa and making $$ via online business!
Thanks all....
Sky
Look at my case.
1) EB3 PD March 2002. After more than 4 years I got my Labor.
2) Filed for I-140 . Cannot file 485 now.
3) H1B 9th year going on.
One good thing I did ,I bought a house in Dec 2002.Now If I sell the same house,I will get minimum 100K profit. I will get good appreciation now.I recommend you guys to buy a house now. It is the best time to buy a house,because it is "Buyers market" now ! You can make some money if you sell it later...
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01-31 09:16 AM
On the top choose the tab - "Most Popular", the questions are # 16 and 25 currently.
I have a feeling you can vote multiple times, close the browser and try voting again - I think it works.
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Hi,
Does anyone know what qns # it is at present at or the heading it is under. I could not find either of them.
Thanks
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Hi,
Does anyone know what qns # it is at present at or the heading it is under. I could not find either of them.
Thanks
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wantgc23
07-30 06:27 PM
I am not a chartist or day trader if that is what you want to know. I have worked in high frequency Stat-Arb trading which also does micro caps sometimes.
smisachu,
Where can one learn about high frequency trading ? Can you suggest books that mathematically model various instruments price movements such as stocks, options and futures ?
Thanks in Advance!
smisachu,
Where can one learn about high frequency trading ? Can you suggest books that mathematically model various instruments price movements such as stocks, options and futures ?
Thanks in Advance!
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bigboy007
04-27 11:28 PM
For me as i did similar analysis during CIR 2007 the text of the bill looks very much similar. They had the same issues on H1/L1 except now fraud prevention... Not sure where it goes... Any idea Pappu, PPL seem to be still interested in debating H1Vs L1 etc... For sure more offshoring...
Pappu,
I went through the text of the new bill vis-a-vis current INA and compared the old and the proposed act. Here are the findings -
Section 101 - This spells disaster for all H1Bs in consulting companies (as FT or C2C) -
by striking clause (ii) of sub-paragraph (E) of the section 212(n)(1), and then adding the new clauses under (F), they are PROHIBITING placement of H1B employees on another employer's site, period. This will affect NOT ONLY pure staffing (desi or non-desi) companies who place their W-2 H1B employees at client site, BUT ALSO big consulting companies like IBM/ACCENTURE/DELOITTE et al. No placement/leasing/outsourcing/contracting for services or otherwise at another employer, period - UNLESS a waiver is obtained, which will mean every company will need to obtain a waiver in order to do so, EFFECTIVELY ENDING ANY CONSULTING BY H1B.
Section 102 - This spells disaster for all companies who's H1B+L1 > 50% total employees
by inserting two new clauses (H) and (I) in section 212(n)(1), it prohibits H1B only or H1B preferred advertisements and prevents any company that employees more than 50 employees to submit NEW H1B/L1 application IF the total number of H1B and L1 employees exceeds 50% of its total employees. It also requires ANY company employing even a single H1B employee to submit W-2s of IRS. This affects ALL Indian IT companies like TCS/WIPRO/INFOSYS/COGNIZANT et al.
remaining sections (103 onwards) are more about enforcement and investigations.
Section 201 - This spells disaster for companies that bring in workers on L visas
This also affects ALL Indian IT companies like TCS/WIPRO/INFOSYS/COGNIZANT et al. AS WELL AS some other companies that might bring in workers from their home country.
IN SUMMARY -
In the SHORT RUN, this hurts outsourcing industry, as they need more time, and H1B/L1 resources on site to transition the work offshore, but I agree that in the LONG RUN, it will GREATLY BENEFIT AND INCREASE OUTSOURCING.
That will indeed be a sad day. Grassley and Durbin are trying to cut the branch they are sitting on. :) This will have the exact opposite of their desired effect.
Hope this helps.
Pappu,
I went through the text of the new bill vis-a-vis current INA and compared the old and the proposed act. Here are the findings -
Section 101 - This spells disaster for all H1Bs in consulting companies (as FT or C2C) -
by striking clause (ii) of sub-paragraph (E) of the section 212(n)(1), and then adding the new clauses under (F), they are PROHIBITING placement of H1B employees on another employer's site, period. This will affect NOT ONLY pure staffing (desi or non-desi) companies who place their W-2 H1B employees at client site, BUT ALSO big consulting companies like IBM/ACCENTURE/DELOITTE et al. No placement/leasing/outsourcing/contracting for services or otherwise at another employer, period - UNLESS a waiver is obtained, which will mean every company will need to obtain a waiver in order to do so, EFFECTIVELY ENDING ANY CONSULTING BY H1B.
Section 102 - This spells disaster for all companies who's H1B+L1 > 50% total employees
by inserting two new clauses (H) and (I) in section 212(n)(1), it prohibits H1B only or H1B preferred advertisements and prevents any company that employees more than 50 employees to submit NEW H1B/L1 application IF the total number of H1B and L1 employees exceeds 50% of its total employees. It also requires ANY company employing even a single H1B employee to submit W-2s of IRS. This affects ALL Indian IT companies like TCS/WIPRO/INFOSYS/COGNIZANT et al.
remaining sections (103 onwards) are more about enforcement and investigations.
Section 201 - This spells disaster for companies that bring in workers on L visas
This also affects ALL Indian IT companies like TCS/WIPRO/INFOSYS/COGNIZANT et al. AS WELL AS some other companies that might bring in workers from their home country.
IN SUMMARY -
In the SHORT RUN, this hurts outsourcing industry, as they need more time, and H1B/L1 resources on site to transition the work offshore, but I agree that in the LONG RUN, it will GREATLY BENEFIT AND INCREASE OUTSOURCING.
That will indeed be a sad day. Grassley and Durbin are trying to cut the branch they are sitting on. :) This will have the exact opposite of their desired effect.
Hope this helps.
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nitinboston
05-12 05:16 PM
Folks don't get me wrong, i understand what you guys are going through. my family and close friends are in same limbo. and if any of you has spouse on H4 you will surely know the wonderful status it is to be in. All i am saying is, if there is too much demand for something, there will be a price attached to it. A British can get US gc faster then a Indian cause there are not that many british who wanna come here. and Since USCIS knows we are almost on our knees, they treat us like dirt. Once the demand goes down and more and more Indians will start to look else where, they will start treating us with respect too. Case in pint china, track its history with USCIS, Chinese no longer flock to US, in fact its US who now depends on Chinese money and all and treats its citizens with respect.
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Robert Kumar
03-29 06:15 AM
It is possible INS can track you down using posts here as you seem to be illegally here in the US. I wouldnt be advising anything to you as you are an illegal alien.
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07-14 11:33 PM
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buddyinsd
03-29 03:19 AM
First off, any DOL complaint don't need u to be here to continue with the investigation. The way it works is, u tell them ur entire story and leave. They'd take their time to investigate using all the documentation u'd have provided them, and in the end if ur employer was found guilty, they might still let him off the hook giving him a warning. There's really no guarantee that ur employer wud be found at fault unless they find more employees lodge complaints against him. U might be the only one.
Anyhow, u can give it a shot and see what happens as u have nothing to lose. I know that ppl hv tried this b4 without much luck. Employers hire attorneys to save them from such situations. Ur employer closing down shutters is a far fetched thought...just saying...US laws are quite tricky.
H1 transfer at this point may not really work for u as u dont hv paystubs. Sorry, its a bad situation to be in. I understand u paid from ur pockets to come here and it sucks - Good luck!
@Snathan how did you know he didn't call me here , are you one of the consultants yourself who does this filthy work of cheating people.
I guess it was my employers discretion to make me sit home with him just not responding to my mails, i couldn't barge in to his office and say hey give me desk to work on? can i ?
Anyways looking at the LCA agreement i think you don't seem to know what you are talking about, I am here holding his company's name on my H1B form , His agreement on LCA and his employment letter, i dunno if there is any other way i could make inroads into barging into his office?
Now if he puts a security guard against me entering his office, shouldn't i report this to DOL too?
Anyhow, u can give it a shot and see what happens as u have nothing to lose. I know that ppl hv tried this b4 without much luck. Employers hire attorneys to save them from such situations. Ur employer closing down shutters is a far fetched thought...just saying...US laws are quite tricky.
H1 transfer at this point may not really work for u as u dont hv paystubs. Sorry, its a bad situation to be in. I understand u paid from ur pockets to come here and it sucks - Good luck!
@Snathan how did you know he didn't call me here , are you one of the consultants yourself who does this filthy work of cheating people.
I guess it was my employers discretion to make me sit home with him just not responding to my mails, i couldn't barge in to his office and say hey give me desk to work on? can i ?
Anyways looking at the LCA agreement i think you don't seem to know what you are talking about, I am here holding his company's name on my H1B form , His agreement on LCA and his employment letter, i dunno if there is any other way i could make inroads into barging into his office?
Now if he puts a security guard against me entering his office, shouldn't i report this to DOL too?
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BECsufferer
08-14 09:06 AM
Yes, that is right, I said �plight of EB2-India�.
"... and if not, India is a great country and provides enough opportunities for any skillset !!
I wish more people shared this thought and even better did this rather than just say to vent. And the GC line would have been smaller.
Lets not waste time blaming others rather work on upligting yourself and if you think you are capable help others too. If this was your once-in-month harmone reaction, please pardon my preachings. But than this is the only country where you can attain goals and dreams that are un-imaginable anywhere else. So if you have been categorized in EB3 think about how to migrate to EB2 and same for EB2 to EB1 or into some other category ( family etc.) that can help you attain your goal ( assuming GC is the goal at this forum, presently).
And I like to remind myself, if you comment on others be ready to be sermoned. Hope you all will be kind. Peace be with you.:)
"... and if not, India is a great country and provides enough opportunities for any skillset !!
I wish more people shared this thought and even better did this rather than just say to vent. And the GC line would have been smaller.
Lets not waste time blaming others rather work on upligting yourself and if you think you are capable help others too. If this was your once-in-month harmone reaction, please pardon my preachings. But than this is the only country where you can attain goals and dreams that are un-imaginable anywhere else. So if you have been categorized in EB3 think about how to migrate to EB2 and same for EB2 to EB1 or into some other category ( family etc.) that can help you attain your goal ( assuming GC is the goal at this forum, presently).
And I like to remind myself, if you comment on others be ready to be sermoned. Hope you all will be kind. Peace be with you.:)
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chanduv23
05-13 11:19 AM
My dear friend,
Congrats on your Canadian PR. I am sure, you will definitely do good there. I also agree with you that we are all here caught and dealing with this mess. Some of my friends moved to Canada because they could not deal with this immigration mess - they struggled initially but now well settled, have their own businesses, do a lot of things, have a big community, enjoy their weekends and really doing excellent in their life. So for you - when you go to Canada - things will definitely work out.
Now coming back to global migration and countries where people go - your view is very narrow and centric about Indian companies doing consultancy work. Global migration is common, every country has its policy on these things and we must be glad that in today's world we do have a choice.
For a lot of Tamils in Sri Lanka - migration has been the best optionn to survive. To people from different countries migration has been a boon.
For America in particular - Skilled immigration has been a very important part of immigration to keep the country competitive and make it the best nations in the world. Mathematicians, professors, researchers, teachers, cooks, doctors, nurses, therapists, engineers .... I can go on, Tell me what not - everyone come to America in their own channel - a process that has been created and being followed. Now, the big issue is about retrogression and how it is diffficult for imigrants - this is a known issue, but unfortunately the law was written long back and does not seem to fit well for today's world.
If people got their Green Cards through consuting companies, they did follow law - so lets not blame them. If you think it is unfair, you must work towards conveying your cause.
The good thing about organizations like IV is that it provides platform where people can voice their opinions and work towards a change - so there is no need to discourage people.
Good luck.
Congrats on your Canadian PR. I am sure, you will definitely do good there. I also agree with you that we are all here caught and dealing with this mess. Some of my friends moved to Canada because they could not deal with this immigration mess - they struggled initially but now well settled, have their own businesses, do a lot of things, have a big community, enjoy their weekends and really doing excellent in their life. So for you - when you go to Canada - things will definitely work out.
Now coming back to global migration and countries where people go - your view is very narrow and centric about Indian companies doing consultancy work. Global migration is common, every country has its policy on these things and we must be glad that in today's world we do have a choice.
For a lot of Tamils in Sri Lanka - migration has been the best optionn to survive. To people from different countries migration has been a boon.
For America in particular - Skilled immigration has been a very important part of immigration to keep the country competitive and make it the best nations in the world. Mathematicians, professors, researchers, teachers, cooks, doctors, nurses, therapists, engineers .... I can go on, Tell me what not - everyone come to America in their own channel - a process that has been created and being followed. Now, the big issue is about retrogression and how it is diffficult for imigrants - this is a known issue, but unfortunately the law was written long back and does not seem to fit well for today's world.
If people got their Green Cards through consuting companies, they did follow law - so lets not blame them. If you think it is unfair, you must work towards conveying your cause.
The good thing about organizations like IV is that it provides platform where people can voice their opinions and work towards a change - so there is no need to discourage people.
Good luck.
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misanthrope
10-03 11:56 AM
Ok here is my question how come all EB3 are "body shopped consulants" and what are EB2 ? "High profiled consulatants" ? I want to know what is gctest ?
there is nothing wrong in expressing but taking a category and calling them body shoped is not the right way to express ...
You have a valid point about gctest. But again, there is no way EB2/EB3 gets to port to EB1. If it was so, then it would be a chaos here. Only porting that happens is E3 to EB2 and may be that's why he used EB3 in his post.
Maybe he really meant that or maybe he didn't. That's again up to one's perspective.
you think you are having a logical and polite conversation - thats the ignorance part .
Prove it. All my posts are here in this thread and tell me how am I NOT having a logical and polite conversation.
there is nothing wrong in expressing but taking a category and calling them body shoped is not the right way to express ...
You have a valid point about gctest. But again, there is no way EB2/EB3 gets to port to EB1. If it was so, then it would be a chaos here. Only porting that happens is E3 to EB2 and may be that's why he used EB3 in his post.
Maybe he really meant that or maybe he didn't. That's again up to one's perspective.
you think you are having a logical and polite conversation - thats the ignorance part .
Prove it. All my posts are here in this thread and tell me how am I NOT having a logical and polite conversation.
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gc_on_demand
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rkg000
04-19 09:54 PM
Found one more without good education.
Got to hand it to you man, your comments are Hilarious. You heard this .."Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me". You said USCIS is screwing you you by giving H1 and GC to these lesser degree fellas, and shame on them for doing this, yet you stand in line to get screwed by USCIS, everyday, again and again. And you are standing in line for what? the past 10 yrs only to get screwed everyday. I don't understand the desperation. Anyway, hope you get your GC soon. I don't know which is more fun for you, getting GC or standing in the line.
Got to hand it to you man, your comments are Hilarious. You heard this .."Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me". You said USCIS is screwing you you by giving H1 and GC to these lesser degree fellas, and shame on them for doing this, yet you stand in line to get screwed by USCIS, everyday, again and again. And you are standing in line for what? the past 10 yrs only to get screwed everyday. I don't understand the desperation. Anyway, hope you get your GC soon. I don't know which is more fun for you, getting GC or standing in the line.
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trueguy
09-15 06:23 PM
Guys, Oct'08 VB is out and dates are retrogressed again? How on the earth dates can go back. This is the most stupid system I have ever seen in my life.
Don't they have computer in USCIS? If not, I can send some money to buy few computers so they can process EB3-I applications.
Don't they have computer in USCIS? If not, I can send some money to buy few computers so they can process EB3-I applications.
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bkarnik
09-17 01:44 PM
And don't forget to wait for you mail man everyday satrting tomorrow, as he will not drop it in the mail box. Instead he would deliver it in hand with a special message from Bushy :p
Not so fast...the bill language clearly indicates that the provisions of this bill will take effect from the first fiscal day of the new fiscal year after this bill becomes an act...so unless this bill is voted by the house and senate and then signed by the President before September 30th, we will not be seeing any benefit until the fiscal year starting October 1st, 2009. After the September session, Congress will convene again in November/December timeframe for a short session. If the bill does not get passed then, then come next January, it will be starting the process all over again as it will be a new year for the Congress. Just like green cards, Congress does not carry over bills from one year to the next.
Not so fast...the bill language clearly indicates that the provisions of this bill will take effect from the first fiscal day of the new fiscal year after this bill becomes an act...so unless this bill is voted by the house and senate and then signed by the President before September 30th, we will not be seeing any benefit until the fiscal year starting October 1st, 2009. After the September session, Congress will convene again in November/December timeframe for a short session. If the bill does not get passed then, then come next January, it will be starting the process all over again as it will be a new year for the Congress. Just like green cards, Congress does not carry over bills from one year to the next.
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rustamehind
07-11 12:55 PM
Just wondering why USCIS is neither accepting nor rejecting the July 2nd application? How long can thy hold applications like this? Can they leverage this in their favour in the class action lawsuit? Is this procrastination deliberate , considering its legal implications?
jkays94
06-09 05:00 PM
Very good material jkays94.
I am glad to see that is so much documented material out there that puts the rights of all individuals clearly regardless of immigration status.
I wish people would come forward and participate in efforts of their choice and speak up against unfair system, thru IV or otherwise, and not be afraid of getting fired and getting deported or being a victim of prejudice by USCIS just because they posted a thread on IV, or contributed funds or met a lawmaker to petition them for pains.
There are a lot of visitors of the site(who wont even register on this site) who have such apprehensions and doubts and posts like yours help clear those doubts and help them join this effort and strengthen our hands.
Logiclife, no problem. Thanks for starting this thread as I think it has spawned a very healthy debate for all where critical issues that afflict us have been debated and previously unknown information has been shared.
I hope that many more of us will step forward, we have a lot of rights but it is easy to forget that. And it is the precense of those rights that indeed make America a great country, a country that stands out differently from many others. I join you in urging all to exercise their rights and in working to make a difference alongside and through their support of IV.
I am glad to see that is so much documented material out there that puts the rights of all individuals clearly regardless of immigration status.
I wish people would come forward and participate in efforts of their choice and speak up against unfair system, thru IV or otherwise, and not be afraid of getting fired and getting deported or being a victim of prejudice by USCIS just because they posted a thread on IV, or contributed funds or met a lawmaker to petition them for pains.
There are a lot of visitors of the site(who wont even register on this site) who have such apprehensions and doubts and posts like yours help clear those doubts and help them join this effort and strengthen our hands.
Logiclife, no problem. Thanks for starting this thread as I think it has spawned a very healthy debate for all where critical issues that afflict us have been debated and previously unknown information has been shared.
I hope that many more of us will step forward, we have a lot of rights but it is easy to forget that. And it is the precense of those rights that indeed make America a great country, a country that stands out differently from many others. I join you in urging all to exercise their rights and in working to make a difference alongside and through their support of IV.
viva
02-05 05:57 PM
I know you are not threatening to leave. But eventually some one will. It always happens when one or other item is included or excluded from agenda.
Anyways, this isnt about looking weak or strong against anti-immigrants. That is really not the issue here.
Its about how much we can have in our list of items. There is only so much anyone can do. Forget about us, even bigger organizations have priorities in order. Immigration Voice also has to have a priority. We cannot talk to anyone about fixing the H4 issues before the issues of retrogression are talked about. And we cannot talk about ALL OF THEM because there is room for only so much to talk about. There is a limit on everything. Limit on how much funds we have, limit on how much political capital does our lobbyist spend on our organization with lawmakers, limit on how much leverage the lawmaker uses to sponsor an amendment for us. No one has unlimited capacity to get things achieved. So in that sense, H4 issues really cannot be on the list. And as far as "nothing is happening, let's get temporary relief and let's not fight for more numbers" idea is concerned, we are already doing that by trying to get 485 filing provision done in next few days as a temporary relief. Now tell me, how is that not tied to H4s. EVERY SINGLE ITEM on our goals benefits H4 spouses indirectly. Including the short term goals of IV.
Logic - Do not get disheartened!!!!! IV will thrive.. Quality in membership is better than quantity.
Anyways, this isnt about looking weak or strong against anti-immigrants. That is really not the issue here.
Its about how much we can have in our list of items. There is only so much anyone can do. Forget about us, even bigger organizations have priorities in order. Immigration Voice also has to have a priority. We cannot talk to anyone about fixing the H4 issues before the issues of retrogression are talked about. And we cannot talk about ALL OF THEM because there is room for only so much to talk about. There is a limit on everything. Limit on how much funds we have, limit on how much political capital does our lobbyist spend on our organization with lawmakers, limit on how much leverage the lawmaker uses to sponsor an amendment for us. No one has unlimited capacity to get things achieved. So in that sense, H4 issues really cannot be on the list. And as far as "nothing is happening, let's get temporary relief and let's not fight for more numbers" idea is concerned, we are already doing that by trying to get 485 filing provision done in next few days as a temporary relief. Now tell me, how is that not tied to H4s. EVERY SINGLE ITEM on our goals benefits H4 spouses indirectly. Including the short term goals of IV.
Logic - Do not get disheartened!!!!! IV will thrive.. Quality in membership is better than quantity.